Thread: cycle help advise

6 ft----210lbs
14% bf

First choice
Test e -500 mg week 1-10
Test p -300mg week 1-10. M-w-f
Npp -450 week 1-10 ..m-w-f
Dbol -40 mg day 1-4

Second choice ten weeks high Tren low test
Tren ace .- 525 mg week m-w-f
Mast -225mg week m-w-f
Test prop -225 mg week m-w-f
Anavar 60 mg day weeks 2-10
Proviron 50 mg day weeks 1-10

Third .....mix the first 2
First cycle for 6 weeks to add some size
2nd cycle last 6 weeks to get harder
Obviously I would have to change few things but that's the basic idea

Goal is to gain muscle and lose bf ultimately..

how many cycles have u ran in the past..

About 7 past cycles ...usually get up to about 220 lbs on bulk but wife doesn't like my moon face .

I'm guessing you ran tren before? First would be better for bulking, second would be better suited for cutting. Your idea of somehow blending them is a good one. For example, I ran something like this...

1gr test e EW 1-12
700mg NPP EW 1-6
700mg Tren Ace EW 6-12
100mg Var EW 6-12
drol or dbol 1-5

The first 6 weeks packed on some size from the NPP, next 6 weeks hardened those gains up and became more vascular and harder. Dbol gives many of us a moonface if you are taking too much or are not using your AI properly, or at all. Point I'm making is that you run the NPP half way through, and simply switch over to tren for the rest of your cycle. Be sure to use some caber, and some HCG. As for an AI, I would use aromasin (all the way until PCT is complete). The doses above are typically what I use, adjust accordingly. Lastly, try and get some proviron. I have always used the stuff at 50mg ED. My last run, I used it at 150mg ED and I became stone roadmap. IMHO!! Good luck.




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I have ran Tren e before .didn't like the sides but loved the results .
I'm leaning towards the bulk then cut cycle . Obviously not at the doses you ran .I'm not that experienced YET .

I do have Proviron .
I have a preblended cutmix that I was going to use for the cut portion ...its mast , Tren a , test p .at 150 mg per ml split between them . Thinking maybe just find some Tren a instead of cutmix .

I am very curios of the high Tren low test method .I've read it cuts down on sides and get great results .

Anybody else have history of some thing similar .... Bump .....or any feedback ?