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Originally Posted by
IRISHOAK
1000 test E
60 dbol (20am) (40 pwo)
200 tren-hex
50 tren ace 4Xwk (I like the spikes)
100 mast e (maintenance)
200ish deca (strength bump, joints)
Aromasin 6mgs eod
Cialis 5mgs eod
Im just taking my current run up a few notches. Dropping mast down a bit (my base layer is now rock solid from running it at 200 for almost 5 weeks)and adding some deca. The tren ace gets mixed into test e pins (each pin will be 250teste/50tren ace 4xwk)
Im doing GREAT on Flex dbol, and aromasin keeping the sides away nicely! Got 2 bags o' dbol left and its been so good to me I cant let it get dusty!
Nice! This is the first time I’ve ever used DBOL and I think I’m in love!
I am a big fan of deca and tren together too!
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Originally Posted by
maxmuscle1
Bulk- 750 mg Test Enanthate/Cyp weekly
500 mg Nandrolone Decanoate weekly
50 mg Dianabol daily
5 IU GH Daily
I do 3- 8 week on, 8 week off cycles in a row.
I hear that Max.
I’m gonna go just 8 on this. Lift hard and eat hard. Hoping to grow a clip!
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Here is my cycle I'm starting on August 18th
Weeks 1-18
Test-e 875mg/wk
EQ 1050mg/wk
Mast-e 700mg/wk
Deca 525mg/wk
Cialis 20mg daily
Nolvadex 20mg daily
Caber .5mg 3xweek
Aromasin 12.5mg eod
I will also be occasionally pinning different pre workouts
Weeks 1-5
Dbol 50mg daily
Anadrol 50mg daily
Weeks 13-18
Sdrol 20mg daily
Tbol 50mg daily
I might also throw in tren-e 500mg/wk for weeks 12-18
I might also so run proviron 50mg daily for weeks 6-12
I'm hoping to gain 30lbs on this cycle and put me up in the 240lb range
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Originally Posted by
Drillit
Nice! This is the first time I’ve ever used DBOL and I think I’m in love!
I am a big fan of deca and tren together too!
We will see how much you love dbol when your lower back cramps so hard in the middle of a deadlift or a squat that you have to crawl to the floor hahahahaha
Man that pain is unreal to the point you can only just lie there on your back laughing
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Originally Posted by
winstrolsvegan
I've ran Deca & Test with nolva+prami and on another occasion with arimadex+prami, and its just my anecdote but with the prior i had no nipple sensitivity and a lot less bloat whereas with the latter my glands got swollen and i held water to the point BP was an issue also arimidex for some reason changes my mood within hours of dosing for the worst.
bloods would tell a much different story if i had them i know, but as far as SERMS on cycle with 19-nor for me it works.
have you ever tried it? i know there's alot of negative outcomes on paper as far as SERMS on cycle go just curious to hear others anecdotes.
nice symmetry/balance to your physique by the way great job. id be interested to hear some of your protocols/theory's as far as diet & cycling go.
Oversimplifying but... 19-nors have a tendency to create prolactin issues for some. Tamoxifen simply blocks or fills estrogen receptors thereby blocking estrogen that has already converted or aromatized. Obviously it would be better to prevent conversion vice blocking what is already been unwontedly converted. Prolactin is mitigated by cabergoline or formerly bromocriptine. I submit that neither AIs, SERMs or any of these drugs used to mitigate unwanted side effects are necessary at conservative yet effective doses. (caveat: unless overly sensitive)
My opinion is that shit is way out of hand with these dosages used today by normal, hobby gym enthusiasts.
AIs didn't exist in the '80s and '90s, people used a fraction of the gear that is used today and there were still some pretty big fuckers around me back then. There was a helluva lot less gyno in these average gym guys too. I was just in Seattle and I never saw so much gyno in such nothing physique dudes. Half the guys I saw had gyno. From weed? Maybe?
As far as my protocols/theories/diet and cycling, I practice what I preach. So when I post here, even when it seems like preaching, remember that I am not a casual, transient dude who just came to the forum. My avatar is from March 1989, My previous avatar was June 2018. Like me or hate me, I KNOW what I am talking about.
...steps off soap box.....
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Originally Posted by
Drillit
I hear that Max.
I’m gonna go just 8 on this. Lift hard and eat hard. Hoping to grow a clip!
Smart Man. It gives you a break, and you keep gaining because it’s only 8 weeks away! I’m always excited each time!!
Max
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I guess since I am bulking atm too I should have laid out my cycle:
1-16 400 EQ
1-16 500 TEST E
4-8 10mg Sdrol on w/o days ***bailed out on this after 10 day. For me, sdrol es no bueno****
6-10 50mg Dbol/day
1-16 200 Deca (1 -per week)
No AIs or any ancillaries unless I need them.
I might add 200mg tren ace and 200mg Mast at week 10 or so just to use up some open vials but probably not.
My "bulk" is eating so much food I am miserable all the time. Miserable from food, not gear.
BTW, I don't get this back pump thing. Dbol was probably the most ubiquitous drug in the 80s and I never once heard someone mention back pump. Seriously.
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Originally Posted by
Enigma
I guess since I am bulking atm too I should have laid out my cycle:
1-16 400 EQ
1-16 500 TEST E
4-8 10mg Sdrol on w/o days ***bailed out on this after 10 day. For me, sdrol es no bueno****
6-10 50mg Dbol/day
1-16 200 Deca (1 -per week)
No AIs or any ancillaries unless I need them.
I might add 200mg tren ace and 200mg Mast at week 10 or so just to use up some open vials but probably not.
My "bulk" is eating so much food I am miserable all the time. Miserable from food, not gear.
BTW, I don't get this back pump thing. Dbol was probably the most ubiquitous drug in the 80s and I never once heard someone mention back pump. Seriously.
Screw superdrol , go with m1t
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Originally Posted by
BearsFan
Screw superdrol , go with m1t
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I am curious how you use all that gear when much of the carriers are now MCT?
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Originally Posted by
Enigma
Oversimplifying but... 19-nors have a tendency to create prolactin issues for some. Tamoxifen simply blocks or fills estrogen receptors thereby blocking estrogen that has already converted or aromatized. Obviously it would be better to prevent conversion vice blocking what is already been unwontedly converted. Prolactin is mitigated by cabergoline or formerly bromocriptine. I submit that neither AIs, SERMs or any of these drugs used to mitigate unwanted side effects are necessary at conservative yet effective doses. (caveat: unless overly sensitive)
My opinion is that shit is way out of hand with these dosages used today by normal, hobby gym enthusiasts.
AIs didn't exist in the '80s and '90s, people used a fraction of the gear that is used today and there were still some pretty big fuckers around me back then. There was a helluva lot less gyno in these average gym guys too. I was just in Seattle and I never saw so much gyno in such nothing physique dudes. Half the guys I saw had gyno. From weed? Maybe?
As far as my protocols/theories/diet and cycling, I practice what I preach. So when I post here, even when it seems like preaching, remember that I am not a casual, transient dude who just came to the forum. My avatar is from March 1989, My previous avatar was June 2018. Like me or hate me, I KNOW what I am talking about.
...steps off soap box.....
all i did was state my anecdote (how it worked for me) and give you a compliment, and you write me this?
i alluded to already knowing the MOA of these drugs but you proceed to act like your schooling someone... way to make a tool of yourself. and my guy if you looked at my cycle you would see were on the same page, whats your problem?
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