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Proviron is a great drug but it does not produce aesthetic benefit. It’s bound 98% by serum proteins therefore there is very little left to do anything. It’s glorious at lowering SHBG levels and increasing free test. Is also extremely harsh on lipid values. Masteron is great too. It’s my second favorite hormone to use. Tren and mast will produce an effect like no other on the body. As for fakes it’s best to find a source where that is guaranteed not to happen.
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Proviron, one of my favorites. Yes it doesn’t offer aesthetics, but it makes you feel great, and horny as a mofo.
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Cmack053
Lol. Yeah i still have some stuff to try out. I still dont understand the difference between masteron and proviron. Besides one being oral and the other injectable. I keep seeing different opinions on both claiming one is better than the other or this one doesnt do this and this one does. Am i missing something? Is there even a need for mast when i can just take a couple proviron instead and save myself a pin?
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You really cannot compare the two. It’s like comparing apples to astronauts. Both are derived from DHT, one injectable the other oral. Proviron is extremely effective at lowering SHBG levels and combats estrogen in some, it’s also known to increase sex drive and it’s suppressive of the HPG and should not be used during PCT or without testosterone. It produces little to no aesthetic effect on the body. It’s also very harsh on lipid values.
Masteron is know as a hardening agent and used pre competition. It’s known to lower estrogen as well. It lowers SHBG to to an extent but all steroids do. Proviron by design just does do better than most. If taken with a lean physique masteron will provide a very hard and chiseled look. It’s an aesthetic drug.
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Pcushion
You really cannot compare the two. It’s like comparing apples to astronauts. Both are derived from DHT, one injectable the other oral. Proviron is extremely effective at lowering SHBG levels and combats estrogen in some, it’s also known to increase sex drive and it’s suppressive of the HPG and should not be used during PCT or without testosterone. It produces little to no aesthetic effect on the body. It’s also very harsh on lipid values.
Masteron is know as a hardening agent and used pre competition. It’s known to lower estrogen as well. It lowers SHBG to to an extent but all steroids do. Proviron by design just does do better than most. If taken with a lean physique masteron will provide a very hard and chiseled look. It’s an aesthetic drug.
You are extremely inaccurate with a two of your statements in regards to the fact that proviron does not assist with muscle hardening, I never stressed that it's equivalent with masteron but it does have indirect properties with helping people stay dry at the same time enhancing the signatures of other drugs therefore it's indirect properties can help exaggerate the display of other drugs, it deserves its respect in that regards..
Lastly it is not suppressive and this has been documented in studies.. also it is not liver toxic (I hate that terminology toxicity because orals should not be associated with the word liver toxicity)... It is also been documented that it does not affect markers, I get blood work almost on the regular in fact I had it done 7 months in a row and the only thing that changed my markers was accutane.. and I've been running proviron continuously for up to three years now..
Do you have any data to support your claims?
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You are extremely inaccurate with a two of your statements in regards to the fact that proviron does not assist with muscle hardening, I never stressed that it's equivalent with masteron but it does have indirect properties with helping people stay dry at the same time enhancing the signatures of other drugs therefore it's indirect properties can help exaggerate the display of other drugs, it deserves its respect in that regards..
Lastly it is not suppressive and this has been documented in studies.. also it is not liver toxic (I hate that terminology toxicity because orals should not be associated with the word liver toxicity)... It is also been documented that it does not affect markers, I get blood work almost on the regular in fact I had it done 7 months in a row and the only thing that changed my markers was accutane.. and I've been running proviron continuously for up to three years now..
Do you have any data to support your claims?
I agree. I definitely feel a difference when on with some hardness etc. As for bloods, I have had liver values pulled two times since on, 25mg snd 50mg snd never had any elevated levels. Now that’s not for yes on end but I think anything at that point might, even supps IMO.
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Vision
You are extremely inaccurate with a two of your statements in regards to the fact that proviron does not assist with muscle hardening, I never stressed that it's equivalent with masteron but it does have indirect properties with helping people stay dry at the same time enhancing the signatures of other drugs therefore it's indirect properties can help exaggerate the display of other drugs, it deserves its respect in that regards..
Lastly it is not suppressive and this has been documented in studies.. also it is not liver toxic (I hate that terminology toxicity because orals should not be associated with the word liver toxicity)... It is also been documented that it does not affect markers, I get blood work almost on the regular in fact I had it done 7 months in a row and the only thing that changed my markers was accutane.. and I've been running proviron continuously for up to three years now..
Do you have any data to support your claims?
https://www.researchgate.net/profile...b7a0000000.pdf
Effect of mesterolone on plasma L.H., F.S.H. and testosterone. | POPLINE.org
Evolution of testosterone treatment over 25 years: symptom responses, endocrine profiles and cardiovascular changes
There not claims they are facts. The three articles are new not the stuff from 1975everyone else
uses (accept the middle one it’s from 1975). The last one issue best it’s from 2015 and demonstrates everything you say is incorrect. I never said it was liver toxic.
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Great info ... Have come to really like Mast,. Even at 400 mgs a week I see results. I feel it's not as strong as Winnie l simily with almost no existing sides like Winnie. Only tried proviron once and didn't really notice a difference. Being older I run gear pretty low and adjust if needed. Tren is a whole other story.
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Great info ... Have come to really like Mast,. Even at 400 mgs a week I see results. I feel it's not as strong as Winnie l similar with almost no existing sides like Winnie. Only tried proviron once and didn't really notice a difference. Being older I run gear pretty low and adjust if needed. Tren is a whole other story.
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Good read I'll be rereading to try and grasp a bit more and check any boxes that apply to me....thanks for the info...also thanks for the earlier Info.....
I had no idea SSRI would also keep things chill
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