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Originally Posted by
joko123
And trest lol I forgot to add that.
Awesome threads as of late brother
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Appreciate that Joko!
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Originally Posted by
Gainzbruh
If theres a blood test that can tell you myostatin levels Id be down to try yk11.
You would have to get genotype testing. I have only seen it used in cattle. Might be a company that does it. I would have to research that!
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Come into the protocol in a lean depleted state short and long esters of test P, test E, Tren A, Mast P, EQ, igflr3, pharmacy grade hgh, just cycle the esters in and out cut and bulk cut and bulk just switching esters along the way
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Originally Posted by
solocom
I've had great results alternating between gh and igf-1 lr3 every other day. I was doing much less than outlined in this protocol. I think 3-4 iu gh and then 20-30 igf. From what I understand, igf increases insulin sensitivity while gh can decrease it. So they work really well together. I've not used lantus, but I've had good results using micro doses of humalin r with 3 units of gh. I would like to try lantus though.
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Hey man if you're switching back and forth from GH and IGF what are you using to mix your IGF, bac wat or acetic? I've read it only stays good with bac water for a few days. What's your thoughts?
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BombdotCom
Hey man if you're switching back and forth from GH and IGF what are you using to mix your IGF, bac wat or acetic? I've read it only stays good with bac water for a few days. What's your thoughts?
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I always use bac water on my gh and use it within a few days. I use acetic acid with igf. I read that it's supposed to stay good for 2 years in AA when kept refrigerated. I looked for the study that showed potency was the same after 2 years, but I can't find it atm.
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Originally Posted by
solocom
I always use bac water on my gh and use it within a few days. I use acetic acid with igf. I read that it's supposed to stay good for 2 years in AA when kept refrigerated. I looked for the study that showed potency was the same after 2 years, but I can't find it atm.
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Do you recommend a source for acetic?
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Originally Posted by
Diesel1965
Come into the protocol in a lean depleted state short and long esters of test P, test E, Tren A, Mast P, EQ, igflr3, pharmacy grade hgh, just cycle the esters in and out cut and bulk cut and bulk just switching esters along the way
Sounds straight up to me! Like it!
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Wouldn't the HgH make the igf1 redundant? Why run one if you're going to take the other? Or is lr3 have a different application than just raising igf levels?
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Originally Posted by
BombdotCom
Hey man if you're switching back and forth from GH and IGF what are you using to mix your IGF, bac wat or acetic? I've read it only stays good with bac water for a few days. What's your thoughts?
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Bac. water for gh. Pharma grade has it w product or is premixed already. 0.6 acetic for IGF-1 Lr3, it is widely available.
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Originally Posted by
HoldMyBeer
Wouldn't the HgH make the igf1 redundant? Why run one if you're going to take the other? Or is lr3 have a different application than just raising igf levels?
Most bodybuilders use gh for long periods. Igf1 is only used typically for 4 weeks as it can become ineffective after that. There is a great synergism between the two and bodybuilders are very meticulous about protocols and strategies. There are some great articles posted by our sponsors about this subject. It would take me literally hours to explain. They definitely are very effective when used together but, you definitely need to know exactly what your strategy is before starting these type of advanced compounds. Also realize this is rarely used outside of competitive bodybuilding and the average AAS user will never need to run these compounds as they are very expensive, especially when you buy Pharmaceutical grade versions.
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