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      Military Drug Testing

      The below article has been posted on multiple boards but has no author listed. It sounds like the useful info for any member serving....

      There have been a lot of threads in regards to the military and drug testing. Some of the questions included what do they normally screen for, what are the cutoffs that will make you pop, and do they screen for AAS.

      As a the Substance Abuse Control Officer (SACO) for my unit please allow me to shed some light on this issue. But before I start, I must state, in no uncertain terms, that I do not condone the use of ANY illegal substance. I just feel its important to provide you all with the accurate information.


      1. In the Navy/Marine Corps, the unit is required to randomly test 10% of its people per month. The people selected for these test are selected completely randomly via the units roster imputed into a computer program.
      2. These random tests screen for the following drugs. On this list you will also find the concentrations in your blood that will make you pop.


      Rpt Abbreviation Drug Cutoff Value:

      THC THC 15 ng/ml
      COC COCAINE 100 ng/ml
      PCP PCP 25 ng/ml
      COD CODEINE 2000 ng/ml
      MOR ******** 4000 ng/ml
      6AM HEROIN 10 ng/ml
      LSD 2-OXO-3-HYDROXY-LSD 1000 pg/ml
      LSD LSD 200 pg/ml
      MDMA MDMA 500 ng/ml
      MDA MDA 500 ng/ml
      MDEA MDEA 500 ng/ml
      OXCOD ********* 100 ng/ml
      OXMOR OXYMORPHONE 100 ng/ml
      DMETH D-METHAMPHETAMINE 100 ng/ml
      DAMP D-AMPHETAMINE 100 ng/ml


      1. What happens if someone pops? Once the SACO receives the report from the drug screening lab that someone has popped positive, that member will be recommended for an administrative separation unless that member was prescribed a medication that falls in line with the substance that they popped for.
      2. What are the chances for a false positive? The drug screening labs have some high speed gear. If any sample comes back positive,, they immediately test it again. They routinely quality check their test equipment by having shop supervisors randomly sending batches of samples through with known positive samples. The testers do not know when this occurs. So to sum it up, the chances are slim to none that when a SACO gets a report that a sample is positive for drugs, that it is incorrect.
      3. Now to the AAS issue. If you reference the list above, you will not find a single listing for any kind of AS/PH. Thats because the facilities that the Navy/Marine Corps use, which are located in J'Ville FL, and San Diego, CA, can not screen for AS/PH. They just dont have the equipment. The Navy/Marine Corps has to send samples for steroid testing to Dr. Caitlin's lab at UCLA. The most recent price for this test ws $250.00.
      4. So how does the military actually test for steroids then? Well this is kind of a nebulous issue. First, you have to be suspected of use and the command then has to have probable cause to ask you for a sample. Now comes the question, well how in the heck does the command get probable cause. Like I said, its a nebulous issue. Anyone reading these threads knows the sides associated with using AS/PH's and which ones can become apparent to your co-workers.
        If your command thinks it has probable cause, they will probably already have consulted with base legal, they will ask you to consent to providing a sample. They are going to ask you this because it ellimnates the need to prove probable cause. If you do not consent, the commanding officer will then order you to provide a sample. There is a differnece here. Personally, I dont think I would ever consent to any kind of test. Whether I was using or not. This comes down to privacy issue for me. Besides, if you consent and you pop, you can be recommended for court martial. If it is a command directed test, and you pop, they can only administratively seperate you. Reason being, a positive result obtained from a command directed urinalysis, without satisfying probable cause, is not admisable in court.
      5. So then you ask, what AS/PH can they test for and how long do they stay in your system? This question I cant definitively answer. I think that you could probably find the answer to this on this board someplace or on the net. Just be advised, I would suspect that any answer you find will be a best guess. I have talked to the drug demand reduction coordinator for my base, and was sitting in his office when he called the UCLA lab. The UCLA lab would not go into specifics as to screeing process and detection times.


      Detection times - half lives and drug testing


      Detection Times

      Anavar ............................................3 weeks
      Anadrol........................................... ..2 months
      Andriol........................................... ...1 week
      Boldenone Undecyclenate...................4-5 months
      clen.............................................. ...4-5 Days
      dbol ................................................5 weeks
      deca ................................................18 months
      Drostanolone propionate........................2 months
      Ephedrin ...........................................4-5 Days
      Halo.............................................. ....2 months
      Methamphetamin ...............................6-10 Days
      nandrolon phenylprop ........................12 months
      nilevar........................................... ....5-6 weeks
      Parabolan......................................... ..4-5 weeks
      Proviron.......................................... ...5 weeks
      Primo Depot.......................................4-5 weeks
      Sustanon ...........................................3 months
      Spiropent......................................... ...4-5 days
      test cyp .............................................3 months
      test enat ............................................3 months
      test Prop.............................................2 -3 weeks
      Trenbolon Acet ....................................4-5 weeks
      *test supspenison No metabolites. t/e should be back to normal in days
      Equipoise......................................... ....4-5months
      Winny oral...........................................3 weeks .
      Winny inj.............................................2 months

      Half lives

      Oral steroids Drug Active half-life
      Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
      Anavar (oxandrolone) 9 hours
      Dianabol (methandrostenolone, methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours
      Methyltestosterone 4 days
      Winstrol (stanozolol)
      (tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours

      Depot steroids Drug Active half-life
      deca-durabolin (nandrolone decanate) 15 days
      Equipoise 14 days
      finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
      primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
      Sustanon or omnadren 15 to 18 days
      Testosterone cypionate 12 days
      Testosterone enanthate 10.5 days
      Testosterone propionate 4.5 days
      Testosterone Suspension 1 day
      * Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day

      *Winstrol depot does not actually possess a classical half-life because it is un-esterified. Instead, the microcrystals dissolve slowly. Once they have all dissolved levels of the drug fall very rapidly. It is still an important consideration, and we have included it with a half-life of one day.

      Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
      Formate 1.5 days
      Acetate 3 days
      propionate 4.5 days
      Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
      Butyrate 6 days
      Valerate 7.5 days
      Hexanoate 9 days
      Caproate 9 days
      Isocaproate 9 days
      Heptanoate 10.5 days
      enanthate 10.5 days
      Octanoate 12 days
      cypionate 12 days
      Nonanoate 13.5 days
      decanoate 15 days
      undecanoate 16.5 days

      ancillaries Drug Active half-life
      Arimidex 3 days
      Clenbuterol 1.5 days
      clomid 5 days
      Cytadren 6 hours
      Ephedrine 6 hours
      T3 10 hours

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