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      Quote Originally Posted by Ricenoodle View Post
      My first Tren A go and I have no appetite all the time. I dont know why. I force feed.
      Give it time


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      Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
      Just an FYI... What I normally do whenever I run Trenbolone I always for the most part incorporate nandrolone phenylpropionate NPP, it helps keep the muscle belly full and rounded without flattening out.. for myself and also a lot of other people nandrolone phenylpropionate is a great alternative when Trenbolone it's too aggressive, however I have found the both of them to be extremely complimentary of one another, Trenbolone just peeling down the layers at the same time nandrolone phenylpropionate keeping your nice and full underneath..

      I actually pre-designed a cycle that we offer here at the company with this exact cocktail for this exact reason..

      100/100mgs EOD NPP/Tren Ace..

      One of the most complimentary and synergetic pairing agents that you can possibly run concurrently..
      I like doing this as well tren and NPP Go together great


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      Quote Originally Posted by Ricenoodle View Post
      Right now im running 400test and 200tren A a week injections eod. Im considering decreasing the test to 200mg and increasing tren 300mg for remaining. I usually do moderate cycles for now im not that big. Only 5'6 180lbs 14% bfp right now. Do you think if I were to run 50/50 eod would be good? Should i add in npp now? Maybe run 200test week 50npp/50 tren a?eod
      Listen man your stats aren't that bad there's actually guys I know that are at the same exact stats that you are and they look like two hundred pounders all day long.. it's all about muscle density and if you got that four-dimensional look going on with your separations..
      But you're at 14% so I doubt the separations are where they should be maybe get down to about 10..
      I would personally drop your test and run it at 200, let testosterone perform with its normal functionality.. I would increase NPP at 100 and ace at 100, EOD..

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ricenoodle View Post
      My first Tren A go and I have no appetite all the time. I dont know why. I force feed.
      It happens to people.. Trenbolone can actually create gastro disturbance and cause a lot of acid reflux, giving people heartburn and what not even if you don't experience that with the side effects there could be something going on in your gastro tract.. you can incorporate some ghrp-6, and some Nausene, Nausene will help with upset stomach and nausea but it also has the ability to offset any prolong feelings of having a anti appetite.. ghrp-6 will also increase the ghrelin levels in your stomach which will improve the signaling to your brain that gives feedback that you're hungry it's an enzyme that interacts with a portion of your brain that tells your body that you're hungry..

      If you can't eat your meals then you can also drink..

      Start off with smaller portions but try to incorporate more smaller portions this way you stimulate your metabolism, and you can induce your appetite this way.

      Sometimes with also helps is when you don't have the urge to eat you can drink a very high concentrated sugar juice like orange juice,it can drop your glucose levels almost inducing a sense of hypoglycemia and this is where your body will crave nutrients an food especially carbohydrates..

      Drinking orange juice when you have a lack of appetite definitely helps improve appetite for people..

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      Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
      Listen man your stats aren't that bad there's actually guys I know that are at the same exact stats that you are and they look like two hundred pounders all day long.. it's all about muscle density and if you got that four-dimensional look going on with your separations..
      But you're at 14% so I doubt the separations are where they should be maybe get down to about 10..
      I would personally drop your test and run it at 200, let testosterone perform with its normal functionality.. I would increase NPP at 100 and ace at 100, EOD..
      I was trying to upload photo. Not sure how to do it. Do you think I should add the npp in now?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
      It happens to people.. Trenbolone can actually create gastro disturbance and cause a lot of acid reflux, giving people heartburn and what not even if you don't experience that with the side effects there could be something going on in your gastro tract.. you can incorporate some ghrp-6, and some Nausene, Nausene will help with upset stomach and nausea but it also has the ability to offset any prolong feelings of having a anti appetite.. ghrp-6 will also increase the ghrelin levels in your stomach which will improve the signaling to your brain that gives feedback that you're hungry it's an enzyme that interacts with a portion of your brain that tells your body that you're hungry..

      If you can't eat your meals then you can also drink..

      Start off with smaller portions but try to incorporate more smaller portions this way you stimulate your metabolism, and you can induce your appetite this way.

      Sometimes with also helps is when you don't have the urge to eat you can drink a very high concentrated sugar juice like orange juice,it can drop your glucose levels almost inducing a sense of hypoglycemia and this is where your body will crave nutrients an food especially carbohydrates..

      Drinking orange juice when you have a lack of appetite definitely helps improve appetite for people..
      I was taking mk677 my appetite was a lot better stop it and just not so good. That shit just had me pissing to much at night and water weight.

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      I just got warned my appetite May stall and so reading this is giving me good ideas... so far I am eating like a horse and everything in sight (pretty damn clean items) ....
      it gave me gas and I have acid reflux normally so when I ran out of Prilosec I didn’t get more them started the tren and had to get back on it ASAP....was restricting my food pipe due to irritation and trying to get back into throat from stomach....

      farts i I don’t mind , wife does but it cracks me up so I’m good till she busts ass them it’s not cool....

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      Btw I am eating a crap ton and still fight like hell to get above 10% bf... when I do this again I am going to kick start anadrol add some fat fluff ahead of time to try and keep ahead of the caloric burn or so this is what I’ve learned about me and this cycle...thanks to a lot of you for filling in the blanks on stuff that arose or questions I hadn’t thought of till....it has made this run very educational and prepped me for round #2

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bullcrew View Post
      Btw I am eating a crap ton and still fight like hell to get above 10% bf... when I do this again I am going to kick start anadrol add some fat fluff ahead of time to try and keep ahead of the caloric burn or so this is what I’ve learned about me and this cycle...thanks to a lot of you for filling in the blanks on stuff that arose or questions I hadn’t thought of till....it has made this run very educational and prepped me for round #2
      its all about learning the curves man, and right when you get a keen indication about your sensitivities, blammo it all changes because time went by and you aged a bit.. Sensitivities change AGAIN and AGAIN.. grrrr..
      I could never look at what I used to eat in my 30's, now I;m in my early 40's and it's like starting all over again.. But the beautiful thing is, the journey is amazing and the ride constantly provides us with unique experiences one after an other..

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      Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
      its all about learning the curves man, and right when you get a keen indication about your sensitivities, blammo it all changes because time went by and you aged a bit.. Sensitivities change AGAIN and AGAIN.. grrrr..
      I could never look at what I used to eat in my 30's, now I;m in my early 40's and it's like starting all over again.. But the beautiful thing is, the journey is amazing and the ride constantly provides us with unique experiences one after an other..
      change is the constant for sure...i battle my metabolism always have. I have left sweat angels for years and more than not eat and get really hot....was pretty damn skinny but extremely strong when I was young and absolutely faster than shit I was a nightmare in soccer and football. Hit you like a lineman trying to push your spine out of you and ran like a madman

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