Thinking about next cycle... am I nuts?!

**jrock645** · 08-15-2019, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by joko123

You could achieve underwear model on steroids by being lean, some test and mast that’s it call it a day.

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Eh, I want more muscularity than what I’d get with that. I’m an endurance athlete by nature, built like a swimmer- tall, long limbs and broad shoulders. Muscle mass is tough to come by. I guess I’m looking to blur the line between underwear model and fitness model, if that makes sense.

**MrBash** · 08-15-2019, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by jrock645

Eh, I want more muscularity than what I’d get with that. I’m an endurance athlete by nature, built like a swimmer- tall, long limbs and broad shoulders. Muscle mass is tough to come by. I guess I’m looking to blur the line between underwear model and fitness model, if that makes sense.

So if Muscle mass is hard to come by this is why your using steroids. Have you put the work in. What’s your stats. Training years and cycles.. I don’t care what anyone says if you eat enough and train right Muscle is not hard to come by if you are willing to work for it... and a lot of people are not willing to work for it so they turn to steroids to get them where they want to go faster and easier than if they did it without them. Get all you can outta what god gave you then add the gas to the mix. And I know the last time I looked at a GQ or some other homo magazine the last thing I thought when I saw a underwear model is Wow he must have had a killer cycle to look like that. I look at them and say I wonder if he’s a pitcher or a catcher.. heheh

**jrock645** · 08-15-2019, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by MrBash

So if Muscle mass is hard to come by this is why your using steroids. Have you put the work in. What’s your stats. Training years and cycles.. I don’t care what anyone says if you eat enough and train right Muscle is not hard to come by if you are willing to work for it... and a lot of people are not willing to work for it so they turn to steroids to get them where they want to go faster and easier than if they did it without them. Get all you can outta what god gave you then add the gas to the mix. And I know the last time I looked at a GQ or some other homo magazine the last thing I thought when I saw a underwear model is Wow he must have had a killer cycle to look like that. I look at them and say I wonder if he’s a pitcher or a catcher.. heheh

I can put work in and I can eat till I’m sick. Making the scale go up isn’t that hard, gaining lean muscle mass is a slow process for me. Growing into some 42” waist pants to get my lifts up(a la 5x5 etc) isn’t acceptable for me. I’m 6’2 208 at the moment, about 14%bf if I had to guess. Been training two years at the moment, have 2-3 years of prior training experience before that- walked away for a while for work and stuff. Before this last cycle, I’d just done designers- Phera, epi, epi/tren(ph), DMZ.

Currently doin DoggCrapp, just started a few weeks ago, running through the end of the year. I generally stick to HIT style, but time for something a bit different. I graduated high school at 155lbs at the same height I am now, so I have grown but it’s taken a long time.

**MrBash** · 08-15-2019, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by jrock645

Ok, so it’s way early, only a couple weeks into pct from a test, NPP, msten and var cycle. 16 weeks total. Not looking to start until January, and obviously pending bloodwork. But I’ve been sorta planning it in my head. Is this nuts?

week 1-14 Sus 375 per week
Week 1-14 EQ 600 per week
Week 1-10 DHB 450 per week
Week 1-8 Var 75mg per day
Week 1-6 Trenadrol 120mg per day
Week 1-4 Havoc 30mg per day
Week 11-18 NPP 450 per week
Week 15-18 injectable SD 20mg per day
Week 15-18 Test P 300 per week
HCG, prami and AI on cycle of course, and proviron the last 8 weeks

Goal is lean, dry, hard gains. Going for the underwear model on steroids look, so conditioning will be important thus the EQ. I have the var, havoc and trenadrol laying around already which is why I wanted to start off with that. I’d rather it not be quite such a long cycle, but with EQ involved, this is sort of the minimum right?

Thoughts and suggestions appreciated.

Idk.. this seems very complicated and alot if compounds to be messing with to achieve your goals. Some test tren and mast if your lean enough will do that. At some var to harden you up a little more and whamo your done.
But hey it’s your cycle and run it how you want to but I think it can be simpler. I know we all have a lot of goals but you are the first person that I think has ever said “Going for the underwear model on steroids look” WTF I have heard it all know..... hahahahahahahaha lmfao.!!!!!

**jrock645** · 08-15-2019, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by MrBash

Idk.. this seems very complicated and alot if compounds to be messing with to achieve your goals. Some test tren and mast if your lean enough will do that. At some var to harden you up a little more and whamo your done.
But hey it’s your cycle and run it how you want to but I think it can be simpler. I know we all have a lot of goals but you are the first person that I think has ever said “Going for the underwear model on steroids look” WTF I have heard it all know..... hahahahahahahaha lmfao.!!!!!

Yeah I know Tren would be ideal but I ain’t messing with that stuff. I have a short fuse as is and deal with too many moron millennials at work. I’d be unemployed on tren.

For an alternative scenario... If I dropped the DHB, ran the NOP and SD to start and the havoc and trenadrol to finish and maybe skip the var?

**Journeybrah** · 08-15-2019, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by MrBash

Idk.. this seems very complicated and alot if compounds to be messing with to achieve your goals. Some test tren and mast if your lean enough will do that. At some var to harden you up a little more and whamo your done.
But hey it’s your cycle and run it how you want to but I think it can be simpler. I know we all have a lot of goals but you are the first person that I think has ever said “Going for the underwear model on steroids look” WTF I have heard it all know..... hahahahahahahaha lmfao.!!!!!

I agree 100% with Mr Bash. I was able to achieve that look on Test E, Tren E and Mast E. I threw some Anavar in at the end and at 47 I look and feel my best. I’ve tried a ton of different compounds at the same time and it didn’t make a difference. Take those compounds with a clean diet and in 12 weeks I looked pretty damn sick. Wifey pretty much cums by simply taking my shirt off. Nice brah !

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**Biggaintime** · 08-15-2019, 04:21 AM

I think you need a little help with your cycle and numbers.

**Biggaintime** · 08-15-2019, 04:24 AM

week 1-18 Sus 500 per week
Week 1-18 EQ 500 per week
Week 1-10 DHB 500 per week
Week 1-8 Var 75mg per day
Week 15-18 injectable SD 20mg per day

This is just a play on what you already had
But I think more simple

**Argon Coagulator** · 08-15-2019, 06:20 AM

I think it's way too many compounds for one cycle. The dosages are good.

I think someone with your lanky frame would relate to John Skywalker. Look him up on YouTube. He's not big, but he's 6' 4", full muscle bellies and hard looking. He typically cruises/runs 700mg test p and 600mg mast. But he does dabble in Tren as well.

**Musclemechanic76** · 08-15-2019, 10:36 AM

Tren changed physical appearance, DHB it 15% u wasting time.
It doesn't burn fat like tren but is may help, some.
The eq, ... not for me....
Get some test, tren, hgh, t4 test run for 4-6 months if u want what u saying. Lol
Or test and rest

And yes I say tren because eq and blood cells real, and tren will be harnessed or ran from

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