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    Thread: Whats the right age to take steroids (GOOD READ)

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      Whats the right age to take steroids (GOOD READ)

      "What is the Right Age to Start Using Steroids ?

      By: Brandon Walsh
      This article is being published in hopes of reaching some of the younger people, involved in our great sport of body building, reach their goals without making the great mistake of using steroids too early in their long lives. The problem with this is that most young bodybuilders (BBs) cannot grasp the concept of the future and how long the road ahead really is even with the use of steroids. How do you convince a 14 year old that it will take years before he can look like the Pro BB's in the magazines, and that he may never look like that even with all the drugs available in the world. Well that is what I hope to accomplish within this article.

      At what age should you be, before you consider using steroids? This question is not as easily answered as you may think it is. You cannot randomly just pick an age and say that this is the point at which you can now start to consider using steroids.

      Between the ages of 12 and 26 a male's hormone levels are on a steady rise until the age of 26. This is when these levels slowly start to decline until they are almost nonexistent by the ripe old age of 40.

      When puberty starts in males at the age of 12 there is a huge flux in hormonal patterns in the body, which cause the growth of male characteristics, (deepening of the voice, growth of body hair, growth in height, etc.). These hormone levels increase by themselves so much that they can be compared to that of a mild steroid cycle . Therefore trying to add to what the body is doing on its own by adding in exogenous (outside) Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is very counter productive.

      Whenever any extra amount of AAS is added to the body, the body recognizes this extra level through a feedback loop in the human body known as the Hypothalamus. Once the Hypothalamus recognizes the increase in hormones which happens usually between 14 and 21 days, the body will shut off its own production of hormones until these levels decrease, along with increasing hormones to decrease these extra levels in the body (cortisone, estrogen). Cortisone and Estrogen are 2 hormones in the body that BBs do not need any extra. The easiest way to try to explain this without getting to complicated, is that the more AAS you put in your body, the more your body will try to lower those levels. When this happens BBs get all the side effects that are normally associated with AAS use, gynecomastia (growth of fatty tissue underneath the breasts in males), hair loss, kidney damage, liver damage, and high blood pressure, just to name a few).

      Before you consider the use of AAS you should have already reached your genetic potential. What is your genetic potential? To figure this out you should first look at the weight, height and build of other members in your family. Is this exact, no, but it is somewhere to start. If every male on both sides of your family is approximately 5'7" and weighs between 150lbs and 170lbs and they are all bald by the age of 25, then it would be a good guess that you will also fall somewhere in those ranges by the time you stop growing. Now with working out and eating correctly for 4 years lets say, you would be able to put on 15 or more pounds of muscle tissue (that would mean you now weigh 165-185 lbs.). This is what your genetic potential would be. Now if you started to use steroids at that point, 165-185 lbs you may be able to put on another 15-20 lbs (180-200lbs). If you had started using when you were 125 lbs., and gained 25lbs through the use of steroids, you would still be well short of what you could have gotten naturally (150lbs as compared to 180-200lbs), and now it will be much harder to try to gain another 30-40lbs.

      So for a starting point lets say that you need to be at least 18 years of age before you consider using steroids. Now that we have a starting point, lets look at a few other factors that should be considered. Steroids DO NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM makes up for a good diet and workout program. Most people who use AAS feel that this is the time where they can be a little more relaxed in their workouts and diet. Actually this is when they should be even more strict. So before you can think of using at the age of 18, you will need 3 more solid years of good training and eating habits. Minor changes in diet and workouts can result in great gains in mass and muscle as well as strength.

      No matter how much assistance you get from AAS, without proper nutrition and workouts you will be lucky to have any gains at all, let alone keep them after the cycle is over. The goal of using any substance, legal or not should be that after you stop using it you don't loose all of that which you have fought to get. What would be the point of spending all that money (steroids are not free) to gain that 30lbs when you will loose it after the cycle is over anyway?

      So the better question to ask instead of when can I take steroids , should be, what can I do to get all that I can out of my body without needing steroids?. In order to calculate my progress, I need to talk with my family and doctors, before I try to make a choice like that.

      We will start with the age range of 14-16; this is when your hormones are raging. Your body is in full swing of making the best steroids that you can ever get, and it does all this without you even needing to do a single thing. At this point you should start with a solid exercise plan and a basic supplement plan in addition to the regular food that you need to be eating on a regular basis.

      For workouts focus on the basic compound movements (Bench Press, Squats, Deadlifts, Barbell Curls, etc.) Working out 4 days a week with at least 8 hours of sleep a night is a great start. Add to that the extra protein that you should be taking and you will definitely start seeing a difference in your body. As for supplements , at this point all I would suggest is a good Meal Replacement Shake, multi-vitamin and creatine. Any shake will work, just add 2 shakes a day to the 3 solid meals that you should already be eating. Creatine has more benefits then I could start to explain in this article, but what I can say is that it will help your strength, muscle, speed, and recovery without any negative side effects.

      By the age of 16-18 you will have had most of your growth spurts and you will be ready to change a few more things in your overall plan. You workouts can become a little more specialized as you start using different exercises. As for your nutrition program, all that I would think of adding now would be something such as extra glutamine before bed and maybe a ZMA supplement. You still don?t want to take anything that would alter what your body is doing on its own, so using ZMA and glutamine is just what you need.

      Somewhere between 18 and 21 you should be just about done growing, so what should you do differently now? Add more protein! You should be getting at the very least, your body weight in grams of protein per day! And that?s at the very least! By now you will have been working out consistently for quite a while and should know your body very well. What will work and what won?t work should be old news. There isn?t really anything new to add to what is already a great program, other than Tribulus and maybe a pre-workout supplement such as Ultimate Orange. After this point, you can start to consider the use of steroids. What about them? Are they as terrible as everyone seems to think they are? As long as they are used correctly, I don?t think so. When considering their use, I feel that orals should be used as late as possible. These are most harmful on the body and therefore should not be used for a very long time.

      Another thing to consider, other than the side effects I have already spoken of, is your sex drive. Some AAS will make your sex drive almost nonexistent and will have a big effect on your sperm count. These drugs in particular should try to be avoided. That leaves mild anabolics. Although they are the safest to use, they are expensive, illegal, and require the use of a needle. Which most first time users do not want to use.

      I told you that this is not something that should be passed off very easily; you shouldn?t have to make the mistakes that most of us make by using steroids to early in your life. If used correctly, I think they are fine, but look at what it takes in order to use them correctly. Have you been working out for 5 years straight without more the 2 weeks off every 6 weeks? Do you eat every 2-3 hours, 6 times a day without missing a meal? Do you get 8 hours of sleep every night? This is something that can have a huge effect on your body for the rest of your life, so don?t make that choice in 10 minutes. Good luck and keep growing.

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      Anadrol From Hell!

      The following TRUE story was given to Mick Hart, read it, and let it serve as reminder to all of us who use steroids......

      So it all began when I became like most of us do at times, despondent about, "What no gains?" After training for 5 years or more, I had reached that plateau of no more gains at the age of 22. I decided to seek some advice from a very large friend of mine called Paul who now works for Chemical Warfare and also knows my mate from Portsmouth, (small world) which is where I was hatched and raised.

      He put me on deca and sust and his word was true after 7 weeks I had gained size and power which made me happy and Paul hadn’t steered me wrong, which I was worried about as he was a friend, but still was his interest in my health or his pocket?

      I took his advice on training and diet and it worked. A year later again I sought his advice and again I grew, only on a larger cycle, and no side affects at all; this I believed was due to him keeping me away from testate and testan 100 as I needed chest NOT breast.

      Jumping 7 years now after working in the USA and learning about gear and educating myself from books, articles and also seminars, I returned to Britain. I set up base in Brighton and soon found a hard-core gym - great I thought.

      Straight in to running the security of clubs things were going very well. UntiI I felt the need to get bigger - as if I was not big enough already! 6' 2" at 246 lbs with 12% body fat. Yep, I looked good!

      I had done a few heavy cycles in the States and decided that this would be my last cycle - famous last words.

      So after seeking out the gym's ‘Mr. Supplier", he told me of such a steroid that I would need as it would be the only thing on this cycle that would satisfy me.

      "Orals" I said with suprise and my friend Paul had never really touched the subject so I thought that they were no good. After Mr Supplier had fed me with stories of 35-40lb gains and mild loss on completion I jumped at the Anadrol which came as Oxy something or other.

      I was instructed that 2 shots of sustanon a week with 2ml of deca every 6 days would be ALL I would need would be 3 of these ‘magic pills’ a day for the first 2 weeks, losing 1 a week until the last week at 1 a day. So for 6 weeks he said there would be minor side affects, but his answer to that was to, "........just drink 5 litres of water a day and you'll be OK!" What a wanker!

      So, £350 (about $500) later I was ready.

      Day 1:
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      No worries.

      Day 2:
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      A little sick around food and felt shaky, but otherwise, no real alarm bells as yet.

      Day 3:
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      Mornings from hell! Sick, sick and more sick! I rang him up and asked what was happening? "Just have more pasta and water and you should be fine"

      Day 4:
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      My girlfriend noticed a yellowing of my eyes and looking bit gaunt. No alarm bells yet!!

      Day 5:
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      Stopped taking them - PERIOD! The stomach pains were just too much. Just 12 pills gone, what was wrong with me I asked myself?

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      By now I have gone COMPLETELY yellow, pissing coca cola and crapping just fat that floats! Incredible stomach pains and cramps. I have to go to see my Doctor

      Doctor said he believed it to be gall stones and not to worry as he would arrange an ultra sound within the next couple of days. My blood pressure too was far to high and and my heart rate was DOUBLE that of normal. My weight at the time was 196 lbs. I was alarmed after telling the G.P. that a week ago I was nearer 246 lbs! He said that gall stones can do this. Stupid me! I did not tell him about the gear!

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      Went to A & E could not wait the pain just to bad doubled up all the time no sleep. A & E do ultra sound found nothing, weight down to 189 lbs. I had just lost 7 lbs in a day I now looked like an aids victim. They decided to keep me in for observation after I decided to tell them what I had taken. (brave boy or just smart)

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      Now bile salts coming through my skin and my skin tears like tissue paper when I scratch myself because the salts are itchy as hell and fucking with my mind all I want to do is rip my skin off. They have to sedate me and put me on a drip coz I had eaten nothing in 4 days as soon as I did eat - it comes back up.

      Day 9
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      Whilst having a liver biopsy I vomit about 2 pints of blood over the nurses and the room. The pain was so bad that they gave me tri base ******** to stop me screaming. My blood was now orange due to the bile.

      My parents were called and told to come to Eastbourne general hospital asap as I might not make it through the night. This was due to my elevated heart rate which now had become 2 1/2 times normal even under sedation and they feared that my heart would explode.

      I was told that the anadrol had settled in my liver and eaten through the bile ducts and the cholesterol tubes that run through the bile ducts. This caused the fat and bile to mix which was like contact glue, roadblocking my liver and forcing various nasty fluids and such to back flush in to my stomach and this was what I painted the room with. Part of my liver had collapsed and disintegrated.

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      I still living only due to a through the night plasma exchange, all new blood, modern tech and being pretty fit.

      Otherwise I would be DEAD.

      I was in ICU for 2 months whilst they watched my road to recovery. My lowest weight on day 10 was only 129 lbs. For the next 2 months I was put on a special diet blanched veg and chicken no fat salt or sugar, only water and semi skimmed milk and still on 2 drips with glucose and saline. The worst thing was during this time my legs were so weak that I had to have a catheta fitted, I thought that the
      embarrassment was nothing compared to the pain. I was heavily sedated during ICU due to the itching and stomach pain.

      After being in hospital FOR NEARLY 3 MONTHS I was released. I weighed 154 lbs and was still yellow. For 1 year I was on strict diet and no drinking or gear or I would be dead. I had once a month blood tests. It took 15 months for all of the yellow to go and for me to eat good again, I can now drink in moderation and 25 months after going to hospital I felt good at 224 lbs and did my first mild cycle 1 sust weekly and 1 deca every 9 days and I have made good gains with no ill effects, so I now only listen to educated people whom I consider are more interested in seeing me gain and stay healthy than getting themselves rich.

      I currently work with the outreach project in Brighton and advise young people on food training and steroids most are 18-22 years and already using steroids.

      My advise is to first build good foundations i.e. muscle density before using gear. But they are very willing to put their lives at risk to get bigger, all I try to do is advise them on my experiences and tell them to educate themselves and know their own bodies.

      NOTE FROM THE ED, MICK HART:
      I have spoken to this guy in depth about his trauma. All I can say is WOW! You were lucky mate and I am glad that you are now ok.

      Mick Hart
      Publisher of the cult "No Bull" Steroid & Bodybuilding Mag and the incredible "Layman's Guides to Steroids."[
      Last edited by beanlicker; 10-31-2012 at 07:24 PM.

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      ^^^Wow wtf?!?!?!
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      Damn what they put in his adrol

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      ^^^No shit. Even when I was young and dumb and would take tons of Drol ed and drinking on top of that I never had any sides like that.

      I look back at some of the shit I did when I was a kid and think how the fuck am I still alive lol.
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      Dude must have had some serious liver issues prior to his few days of use. That is some crazy shit!

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