Thread: Backloading

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Thanks all. I’m going to give 27g 1inch pins a shot. Didn’t know they made them like that. It’s perfect for what I want.

Originally Posted by teej750

Exactly the opposite.

I'm trying to educate people instead of spreading false information that people assume works for them so it works for others.

You were obviously triggered when I called you dude. As evidenced from your response/s. Usually the person saying are you mad bro is mad bro.

But hey, let me make this simpler for you and whomever else this applies to.

Your right!! 1/2" pins will reach the quadriceps just fine and there is no benefit to using a depth that will hit closer to the middle of the muscle fiber.

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Below is an image regarding the size difference in which I suggested in post #10

I use 1/2 or 5/8's on Delts, quads, VG and pecs.. It's plenty enough.. Furthermore with the extensive capillary network in the area (especially delts) it will help with getting into the blood faster..

Along with "suggesting" that a 1/2 is plenty in post #11

To the op, just order 1mL barrels, 1/2 tips and 20g drawling tips... Change out tips.. no need for back-loading and IMO it increases the chances of cross contamination, greatly, so stay clear from back-loading!

Further more, allow me to reference - Joslin Diabetes Center who is the world’s "largest" diabetes research center (Affiliated university: Harvard Medical School) whom approves with this practice in regards to 5/8's for IM injections via quads.
Do you really wish to further extend yourself with discrediting tested, tried and proven methods? Look at the size difference with the 1/2 to 5/8, its by a hair's breadth compared.. Inject at a 90 degree angle and dimple if need be.. Needle size will depend on the user and with this concept the user will pick what protocol suits their needs based on experience. It's not necessary to inject into the "middle" of the muscle compartment, just like it's not necessary to aspirate, however both are just concerns based on medical tradition and not supported by evidence.

Ok, go ahead, I'm ready, say something intelligent... Dude!

Originally Posted by teej750

Dude I'll say this and I'm done with you. I have a masters degree in health science and physician assistant and a Bachelors degree in Chemistry. I spent 8 years of my life in school to do what I'm doing.

I've spent 15 years working in ER'S, Urgent cares and Orthopedics. I didnt even read your post bc I know the answer. I asked our registered nurse sitting next to me earlier if she'd give an IM injection (anywhere) with a 1/2" needle and she looked at me like I was an idiot.

You can type till your fingers fall off. 1" is better. According to research and MY CLINICAL EXPERIENCE. What experience or qualification do you have to argue with me. None.

Regardless, I said you were right once, lmao.

Get a grip dude.

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the difference between you and me is I don't have to go and post my credentials or resume in order to further support something I'm advocating..

In regards to asking your registered nurse, I also leaned over and asked big Bird on his stance as well..

In your little narcissistic world the rules only apply to what you believe to be your truth..

Have a good day kiddo

Originally Posted by teej750

Not to mention your diagrams give conflicting suggestions.

The top one says nothing smaller than 22x1" for oils. Then the bottom one early says 5/8".

Good try though. Your killing me. Smh....

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Are you seriously that simple?
The diagram is merely a template displaying the length..
What is conflicting with showing the size in comparison with 1/2 inch and 5/8?