Thread: Anodrol +Nolva or Asin or nothing ?

Originally Posted by bigpapapumpaf

Caber or bromo would be a better choice. Drol is a DHT derivative so treat it like you would deca.

If you've had gyno before, this would be a bad choice IMHO. I don't see test listed either, so double no no to just run drol.

I'd get some raloxifene too. It will knock out any gyno when used correctly.

i don´t have caber nor bromo, it would take some time to order new meds for that cycle ( I now live in Europe btw). I do have some prami but absolutely hated it when i tried it a while ago. My nipples kindda point inward now, a soft space below my pecs, it doesn´t seem to be much left of a gland in there.
Of course I´m on test as well, on the last 4 weeks @875mg a week before getting back to cruise/Trt dosage (depending on whether I go back the doctor´s way). Just suspect test might not be properly dosed or a little too old as numbers a bit short after 3 weeks on 500/550mg a week.
Btw it is hard to say I got gyno because I´m gyno prone, it happened in the 90s, I´d been pinning test and possibly something else as well as taking orals while living in Thailand, and kept on gobbling Dbol and probably more orals when moving back to Europe. Can´t remember how long it lasted but definetely quite a few months (Dbol was sold in boixes of 1000*5mg tablets). No AI no pct as far as I remember, just gyno and a long HPTA shutdown after quitting, the following year wasn´t great sex wise. It took me 20 years to get back on aas, despite living a bunch of those in Thailand where aas are easily available otc. Prolactin do get over the top of the normal range even on 500mg test a week though, I can feel erections getting more difficult after a little while around that dose, but no issue whatsoever around the nipples.
Trying to be a little more careful this time around, but not concerned about HPTA recovery.

Originally Posted by Orange24

You’re saying it’s going to react like deca would?? No... the issue with gyno isn’t prolactin related. Caber won’t stop it. Nolva will.

I won't get into a long explanation of how prolactin and estrogen work. I'd suggest you research it just a little. Drol is a derivitive of DHT so in fact it tends to act like deca in the body along with almost all other 19-Nor's. Nolva will reduce estrogen however a lack of estrogen will not guarantee a lack of prolactin and the prolactin itself is what will cause the gyno.

From Medline: Prolactin has also been reported to decrease androgen receptors and increase estrogen and progesterone receptors in breast cancer cells, which can lead to male gynecomastia.

OP I'd urge you to wait until you get caber on hand before starting the drol. You've had the surgery once, you know it sukks, why risk it?

Day 13 on Adrol now, 50 mgs a day until yesterday when I bumped it to 75mgs (max out week at the gym, took 50mgs pre workout) , most unpleasant side effect was acid reflux, but promptly dealt with Nexum, apple cidar vinegar and taking Adrol along meals. BP started to go up a little but only a few points, Micardis should be helping by now.
Have an appointment with the cardiologist tomorrow btw, I´ll bring the recent BP readings not sure what to tell her, might just skip the part about having started Adrol and Micardis recently, as the BP looks similar to what it was before Adrol and Micardis . Worried about getting kicked off the private health insurance, I told them about the TRT when registering and the policy has some limitation on issues resulting from hormonal treatment, they might just kick me out soon if noticing I´m on high doses of various hormones, but would like the cardiologist to prescribe something for high BP, would use it if and when needed.
Another issue which seems to be getting worse is Lethargy, I often have poor sleep and started lacking of sleep seriously once we got workers in the house during my sleeping hours, but it seems to be well beyond lack of sleep now, I spend most of my time lying down, tired. Don´t eat much when that tired either, not too crazy about putting on weight (wighing around 250lbs, haven´t blown up on Adrol) and strength seems to be going up so it´s not all that bad
I don´t need to get up to work but have a family life, so lethargy is disturbing, was hit hard by it earlier this year while on GH and Test, T4 helped only moderately. Still have some GH which I´m not too keen to use and plently of T4 but haven´t seen T4 advised in such case, nor actually much advice on the matter. Only 16 more days to go on cycle, will probably go for a medical phlebotomy around Xmas time, and late January/february wil give blood if HCT and Hemoglobine are within range.
Any feedback welcome,
Cheers