Thread: Anodrol +Nolva or Asin or nothing ?

Hi

Just beginning my first cycle with Anadrol @100mg/day, reading about estrogen issues and conflicting reports on which drugs are useful to combat it.
Fwiw I have nolva and Asin on hand, don´t worry too much about gyno as I had surgery a decade ago and not much of a gland seems to be left, but care about bloating and high BP which have been a bit of an issue over the last 2 years (started micardis @40mg a day a couple of days ago ). Haven´t been hit by heavy acnea yet but would rather avoid it.
Any feedback on the current state of (bro)knowledge about drugs to combat E2 while on Anadrol ? Can one even avoid them ?
FWIW I´m on the last 4 weeks of a test cycle, 875mgs Test E Balkan a week, although a blood test after 3 weeks showed I might not be getting the full benefit of 800mgs a week testosterone wise, and 50mg proviron per day. Been taking Asin very sporadically this cycle, n more than half a tablet a week on average.
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Thanks !

Anadrol ain’t the drug for you my man. Last I used it (and every time for that matter) I gain a pound a day for up to 14 days at first. Not like a water balloon, just lots of water retention. That is DEFINITELY going to raise your blood pressure. Anadrol is a tough drug for most people. Lots of alternatives.
As far as gyno...I watched my buddy go through puberty like a 13 year old girl on that shit. In 1988 I was buying nolvadex at the drug store for $1/each. No one wanted them because of the price. AIs didn’t exist. I offered my buddy some nolvadex because I could see his tits forming. He argued with me and a year later he spent $5k on surgery. Back then a boob job was only $2k. You never know if you are a converter but thanks to easy access to blood tests, you don’t have to guess.

Thanks Enigma !
Reading quite a few warnings online while others seem to digest Adrol like strawberries, a little afraid though, I might scale back to 50mgs and see how I react for a couple of weeks at least.
Looking mostly for strength gains, although I don´t mind putting on weight, don´t care too much about it either, waking up around 250lbs.
Checking BP daily, so will see it that gets out of hand. Not sure I need to worry about Gyno after surgery, would love to ask the surgeon but have lost both the contact and the name.

Do you use Nolva or an AI when taking Anadrol ?

Nolva for me.

Max

Originally Posted by maxmuscle1

Nolva for me.

Max

Thanks Max, any advice on the dosage, like 10mg a day ? Fwiw a poster on a different forum claims that even with Nolva use he gets gyno flare ups after about 4 weeks of Anadrol use.

Also would you start Nolva with the Anadrol or wait for a while ?

Originally Posted by jnab

Also would you start Nolva with the Anadrol or wait for a while ?

I’m not one to actually just start a Serm or AI as protocol. I use PRN{as needed}. Your situation is a bit different being that your gland may have / have not been removed and you BP. IMO I personal would start the adrol at 50mg, just because I would worry about hr/BP. Try that with high water intake/low sodium diet and see how you respond. You can always move up if no bad sides arise. I’d also obviously monitor my
BP 3-4x a day and log all my numbers. Weigh the risk/benefit. To answer your question, I use 20mg when needed but realize that it is a Serm targeted toward breast tissue and it competes for the receptor, where as AI lower estrogen completely. A bit different. Anyway, it was a good question. Hope I answered enough for you to make a decision.

Max

Originally Posted by maxmuscle1

I’m not one to actually just start a Serm or AI as protocol. I use PRN{as needed}. Your situation is a bit different being that your gland may have / have not been removed and you BP. IMO I personal would start the adrol at 50mg, just because I would worry about hr/BP. Try that with high water intake/low sodium diet and see how you respond. You can always move up if no bad sides arise. I’d also obviously monitor my
BP 3-4x a day and log all my numbers. Weigh the risk/benefit. To answer your question, I use 20mg when needed but realize that it is a Serm targeted toward breast tissue and it competes for the receptor, where as AI lower estrogen completely. A bit different. Anyway, it was a good question. Hope I answered enough for you to make a decision.

Max

Great answer, many thanks !

Originally Posted by bigpapapumpaf

Caber or bromo would be a better choice. Drol is a DHT derivative so treat it like you would deca.

If you've had gyno before, this would be a bad choice IMHO. I don't see test listed either, so double no no to just run drol.

I'd get some raloxifene too. It will knock out any gyno when used correctly.

Raloxifene is around local now too.

Max