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Beyond calories... How is your micronutrient intake? Do you eat beef and fish? Do you eat fruit and veggies? How much each day? Do you consume any dairy? How about nuts? Point is, if youre eating like a bro and its all chicken breast, rice, egg whites and broccoli, and protein powder then your diet is very much inadequate regardless of calories.
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Originally Posted by
IRISHOAK
Lay out your workout schedule & routines so we can see what you're doing.
Overtraining/undertraining & lack of sleep are factors.
this. And are you really eating 4500 cals?
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And with that shbg so low ur getting ALL THE TEST!!! Something's not adding up here!
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This is why I went to the experts....I guess I am a better follower than a leader. Does anyone have a meal plan in the 4500 to 5000 range for clean mass that is proven effective?
Last edited by Jimjimqwerty; 02-21-2020 at 07:24 PM.
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I am surprised no one mentioned other growth pathways in the Anabolic Maxtrix dubbed by Tony Huge (yea I know the guy says some clown shit but I believe he knows what he is talking about). My guess is your anabolic pathway using steroids is maxed out and things like Insulin, HGH, etc. would be far more beneficial then adding more gear. Agree with the above though, caloric surplus and stimulus matter.
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Originally Posted by
Jimjimqwerty
This is why I went to the experts....I guess I am a better follower than a leader. Does anyone have a meal plan in the 4500 to 5000 range for clean mass that is proven effective?
There are plenty on YouTube, even one that is $70 a week! Here is a link to a sample 4,500 kcal diet
4200-4800 Calorie Meal Plan
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Yup, just eating calories isn't enough. You gotta have the right balance. Not enough protein means muscles aren't recovering and therefore you're not putting on size.
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Originally Posted by
Plate Smacker
Change up your workout, and decrease nonessential daily activity level.
We don't know your daily activity level.
We don't know your training style or program.
How much
Change your training up. Many people also think they are going hard in the gym, but aren't. They bust out their phone and take 5 minute rest periods.
Things to change:
Time under tension using an interval timer app to set work and rest periods.
Rest periods: ever try 15 second rest periods? Vary rest periods. 15 sec, 20 sec, 30 sec. Ect...
Go for pump on 4 sets, then final set all out failure. Like the last set is the last you will ever do. Think Dorian Yates style. If you workout alone like me, some exercises you can't go to all out failure. All out failure is not lifting failure, it's negative portion of the lift failure. So I do rest pause. So the set is pretty long and extended.
Maybe your workouts are too long. Maybe your nutrient timing is off. Maybe you do too much cardio.
Maybe you need more carbs.
Maybe...
I need to try this I’m the same lots of gear 3500 calories stagnant
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Originally Posted by
jrock645
Beyond calories... How is your micronutrient intake? Do you eat beef and fish? Do you eat fruit and veggies? How much each day? Do you consume any dairy? How about nuts? Point is, if youre eating like a bro and its all chicken breast, rice, egg whites and broccoli, and protein powder then your diet is very much inadequate regardless of calories.
My problem too eat the same shut 5 times a day 7 days a week
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How many rest days ?
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