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Just so we’re abundantly clear, Deca and NPP are the exact same active ingredient. They just have different half-life’s folks.
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Why does anyone run a cycle without caber and an AI??
This question is asked 1000s of times.
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Be who you are and be it well !!
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Originally Posted by
Oldman85
Just so we’re abundantly clear, Deca and NPP are the exact same active ingredient. They just have different half-life’s folks.
Yep totally aware of this.
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Originally Posted by
Oldman85
Just so we’re abundantly clear, Deca and NPP are the exact same active ingredient. They just have different half-life’s folks.
Not sure if you were responding to my question..I understand that completely. However I've heard numerous people say they have sides on Deca not on NPP. So my question is merely hypothetical. Let's say I get into my NPP cycle and hate the way I'm feeling or sides, is it reasonable to assume then I'll hate Deca. I'm learning compounds and how I respond to them. So if I hate NPP.i was just curious if I can cross Deca off my list of things to try. Thanks in advance
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DubleDizzle
Why does anyone run a cycle without caber and an AI??
This question is asked 1000s of times.
Be Who You Are And Be It Well !!
I guess the idea would be to always have the ancillaries on hand, right? Having what you need on hand, immediately, in case of issues, is vitally important. But sometimes I do believe people may jump the gun a bit with ancillaries. I’m not going all rogue and saying you don’t need them (you sometimes do) but I am saying using them only when you are certain you need them would be the best bet. Anecdotally, I’ve rarely needed to use them except when specific symptoms and blood tests dictated useage. To add to that, I should say that most of my cycles have been fairly low dose, with a maximum of 3 compounds. That could also be why I rarely need them.
Some men know their systems and have done enough cycles to understand they need to use ancillaries preventatively, and that comes with experience. I’m just careful now when counseling first-timers about AIs, etc. I want them to understand what’s happening (or not happening) during their cycle first, and then only if necessary jump to an AI or whatever they may need.
It’s complex: so much goes into how we are affected by anabolic compounds. Age. Genetics. Drug purity. Frequency. Amounts. Combinations. And yes, in the end I’d have to say it’s better to be safe than sorry. But I’m just slow to pull the ancillary trigger unless proved necessary.
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I think npp at 400mg works fine. We are all different beings.
I can run it 300-400mg and out on mad size.
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jackofspades
I guess the idea would be to always have the ancillaries on hand, right? Having what you need on hand, immediately, in case of issues, is vitally important. But sometimes I do believe people may jump the gun a bit with ancillaries. I’m not going all rogue and saying you don’t need them (you sometimes do) but I am saying using them only when you are certain you need them would be the best bet. Anecdotally, I’ve rarely needed to use them except when specific symptoms and blood tests dictated useage. To add to that, I should say that most of my cycles have been fairly low dose, with a maximum of 3 compounds. That could also be why I rarely need them.
Some men know their systems and have done enough cycles to understand they need to use ancillaries preventatively, and that comes with experience. I’m just careful now when counseling first-timers about AIs, etc. I want them to understand what’s happening (or not happening) during their cycle first, and then only if necessary jump to an AI or whatever they may need.
It’s complex: so much goes into how we are affected by anabolic compounds. Age. Genetics. Drug purity. Frequency. Amounts. Combinations. And yes, in the end I’d have to say it’s better to be safe than sorry. But I’m just slow to pull the ancillary trigger unless proved necessary.
absolute agree, i take as little drugs as possible. i run nands at pretty decent dose & have never ran caber/dost.
i only run trenA about 225/week but when combined trenA & npp i still have no issues but i supp b6 3x a day just as a precautionary measure & IMO it helps but it isnt caber.
Have all your ancillaries On Hand but do take unless needed not because your buddy does but b prepared.
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Originally Posted by
glock4319
I’m running:
1,000mgs eq ew
600mgs npp ew
300mgs sust ew
50mgs provi ed
.5mgs adex eod
How do these numbers look?
Possible deca dick or any other sexual sides from this cycle?
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Looks totally backward to me.. flip that Test/NPP ratio around . Like to run 2x the test to NPP (or Deca) I've never had any problems doing it that way. EQ could be dropped to around 600 as well. You'll get a killer synergistic effect between the Test/NPP & EQ so you won't need as much to get some solid results.
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Originally Posted by
MasterBlaster805
Looks totally backward to me.. flip that Test/NPP ratio around . Like to run 2x the test to NPP (or Deca) I've never had any problems doing it that way. EQ could be dropped to around 600 as well. You'll get a killer synergistic effect between the Test/NPP & EQ so you won't need as much to get some solid results.
I agree
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glock4319
I have over 3 years experience. I just haven’t ran npp/deca yet.
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u havent ran npp yet?
holy shit get reddi to fall in Fkn Luv!! U will b shocked i think, the fullness is give is sick, especially on muscles like delts. 1morning u will look in the mirror & b like holy fu k where did all that delt come from!!!
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