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BigTonetheGuido
Alright. First off, let's avoid the confusion. DHB Cyp. And 1-test cyp are the same compound. The only reason anyone uses the term 1-test cyp, or methyl-1-test (methylated oral version) is because clever supplement companies prior to 2004, sold this compound over the counter, labelled as a legal prohormone. Now, the first version was a non methylated version, simply called t-100 produced by SAN. This was the first steroid I used actually, my senior year of highschool. Back then I wasn't aware it was actually a steroid. But, I should have known, simply due to my bench going from 225 to 365 after two bottles back to back... Lol (roughly 6 weeks!). I also gained about 8lbs of lean mass... (Side note: I told one of the older juiced up guys I looked up to at the gym I was on this stuff called t-100, he laughed and said, bro, you need to be doing at least 1000mg of test a week to get proper.... LMAO, he thought I was referring to test prop 100.) Next, the supplement companies got even more brazen and they started selling a methylated version, I can't remember who sold it, but there were quite a few... And, that is your methyl-1-test or M1T for short. Now, this compound IS definitely liver toxic. But, the effective dose went from 100-200mgs a day down to 10-30. It wasn't until the FDA got smart, or tipped off more likely, that we found out this compund was actually DHB (dihydroboldenone) or MDHB (methyldihydroboldenone). A steroid!!! No shit. Lol. Anyways, the dhb thing didn't catch on until recently, and the 1test thing stuck. Anyways, even today you can purchase 1-AD, (Super Mandro by Hardrock supplements is pretty darn good. I did six weeks of it when I got home from prison and I was shocked (it was 55 dollars in 2017, now it's close to 100...) Anyways, that version is similar to t-100 and the effective dose is 330mg/day, a higher dose due to it being a conversion or two away from actually becoming dhb in your body, but it is definitely NON-liver toxic. Now, let me ask you a question, of all the oral compounds out there that have been made into injectable versions, how many have a non-methylated or alkylated version available? Is there a non liver toxic winstrol, no. Anadrol, no. Dianabol, no. Ment (methyltren.. something or other), no. Superdrol, hmm, maybe, nope. Anyways, because of this these compounds, when turned into injectables, are still Hepatoxic and they don't need or require a cypionate ester to be added to them. Otherwise your liver would be hurting bad.... And, honestly, I don't even know if it's possible. Anyways, my point is, dhb, is non Hepatoxic, mdhb is, and the half life of mdhb would likely be similar to the other injectable orals, dosing would need to be done once or twice a day. Now, if you're using a cypionate ester that means you are prolonging the half life of the compund to say 4-7 days. There is no need then for the meythylation. You are injecting the compund and it's not breaking down for 4-7 days (8 to 12)...... Also, and here is my final point. Since this product has only been introduced recently, either someone has named it incorrectly and everyone is actually selling and using methyldihydroboldenone cypionate. Or, it's labelled correctly and it's lacking the methylation. Which would explain why when taking M1T orally 10-30mg a day is plenty. But, when taking the dhb cyp you need far more than 70mg a week!!!! It's not going to lose effectiveness switching from an oral to an injectable if anything it's going to be more potent! No stomach breakdown, no bioavailability issues. Nothing. So why do we need 200-600mg of the stuff???? Well either it's non methylated. And that would make since. 100mg of original t-100 x 7 days is 700mg. Closer to an inj dosage than 70mg/wk. Ponder that.... Also, with no pharmeceutical grade version existing, we just truly don't know what we have or its effects .... In fact, this could actually be boldeone cypionate.... And, we are all getting shammed. Who knows.... But, until I see a chemical analysis of the dhb cyp listing it's full chemical name, and not a bunch of bro science. Im gonna go with, non Hepatoxic... Does that mean it's safe, no... But, safe on your liver.... Yes. Lol The intenet is like the world's biggest hair salon, it only takes one misinformed, incorrect, or idiot to post once, and then it spreads like wildfire... And, people then believe it because everyone starts stating it as proven science, when in actuality, it's complete and utter bullshit. I disproved a largely held belief that cjc1295 (no dac) can cause permanent irreversible pituitary damge if used longer than six weeks, that it causes a phenomenom called, "gh bleed," and a plethora of other nasty side effects. It's so bad, even "educated" and persons with "medical" backgrounds have stated these lies.
If you want to find out how deep the bullshit worm hole goes, keep reading. If you are already dying from boredom. Thank you, and godspeed.
Anyways, I traced the BS side effects, after digging, and jumping back and forth, and then finally I find the earlieat mention of these side effects. It all traced back to one article written by an "engineer." Oh yes, you heard me, an engineer, not a scientist, a doctor, or even a damn research assistant! This so called expert deduced these side effects based on erroneously derived conclusions of her own mind. How do I know? I called the bitch faced liar out! I emailed her, and as nicely and non-sarcastic or deaming way, I simply asked for her sources, stating I too was writing a paper was on this compound and couldn't find any schloraly sources, but she must have, because it would be in her source sheet. I also asked in a polite and non-fecitious manner, why wasn't there any footnotes or sources listed, as is proper procedure when writing any schloraly article. The website must have either cut them out, or something... Never expected an answer back, but this Looney twat waffle actually wrote me back! She said, "I wrote that several years ago, and I don't have them anymore. I must have forgotten to add them to the article by mistake, are you sure there not there??" Now, I'm no scientist, but I have a BA in English. Lit ... I know writers, I know proper form. To avoid plagerism at the very least you always list your sources. And, no writer, I mean not ONE throws out any research, drafts, or notes they compile during their writing process, regardless if the paper or article never even gets published or it was written forty years ago. Also, the paper was written 13 months prior, far less than the several years she stated. How did I know she was bullshitting. Well, I actually did do the research, and I was perplexed why in dozens of research and clinical studies not one of these side effects are mentioned! Not a one! And, protocol for cjc1295 no dac therapy is much longer than six weeks, are these doctors trying to kill their patients...? Don't they know they could cause irreversible pituitary damage, gh bleed, and possible even cancer or death!!! But, every where I look, this side effect, that one, this one, hundreds and hundreds of articles, reviews, product descriptions... Some were written by some really well known and "respected" individuals and/or companies. And, I use respected loosely, because they are using made up non-sense and listing it as fact! If you have no credible source, whether it be a scientific journal, schloraly review, research study, human and/or animal trials, clinical trials, etc. Well, then, any other source is simply a non-credible source.... I don't even like using anecdotal evidence, I do take it into consideration, but never one account, I'm talking thousands of accounts over multiple, If not dozens of years.... Like testosterone, anecdotal evidence has been compiled since before Arnold's time. And, the majority rules. But, if the anecdotal evidence is a group of ten, even a thousand individuals over a period of one month to up to say, 9 years... I don't want to hear it. Because the guy who had a stroke while on test, blames the test. When his neighbor had a stroke while he was drinking orange juice, did he blame the orange juice? F No.... Just do your research....and, opinions are like assholes, facts are facts...
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