I'm looking to do my first short ester cycle but I have no experience with any. I have only run long ester cycles.
I was thinking of using the following:
Test Prop
Tren Ace
Ten en
Mast
anavar
I Have my diet and routine ready just need some input on amounts, pinning frequency,etc.
This will be my 6th cycle.... I was thinking of going 12 weeks but will listen to all recommendations .
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I've been hearing a lot of good things about NPP. I'm gonna start it in January. I'm already on a blast but since its a fast acting AAS I should be fine adding it four weeks in. Well at least I hope so.
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what dosing are you interested in doing?
Why tren a and tren e?
If going 12 weeks why all the short esters? I hope you have a lot of sites. Like 14.
That's a lot of short compounds to run at once, (unless you were just looking for advice on which of those to run)
They kick in faster, and tend to be more potent.
Only short ester I've used is prop, but from what I've read of other people's experience mixing tren e and a is bad news bears.
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Don't really know that's why I'm asking for people who have run these compounds before and at what amounts. I do not know to much really about short esters to put together a solid lean bulking cycle.Originally Posted by sensitivenips
well I thought of running both weeks 1-5 then dropping the ace and staying with the tren en for the remainder of the cycle, this way I could benefit from the ace until the tren en kicks in. Just my thought,
Think of it like this. Test is test. If you would run 750mg of test E a week shoot for around the same number with prop. It will just take more injections to get your weekly amount. But if your running a longer cycle it makes more sense to run longer esters except I like tren A over E. don't be afraid to mix esters. It doesn't matter.
For instance this is what in running.
Dbol/ddrol
test E
tren ace
NPP
mast E
I have no problems with nandrolones so I'm able to run tren and NPP together which is amazing. I inject EOD regardless of the ester to get my weekly amount. Is your mind set on all short esters?
Last edited by big_paul_ski; 12-20-2012 at 05:54 PM.
One of the differences between short esters and long esters besides half life, is also the amount of hormone absorbed. With shorter esters you get about 95% or so full absorption of the hormone into your body at whatever the half life rate of the ester is. As with longer esters you'll get maybe about 75% absorption of the hormone at a longer half life. So say your pinning 100mg of test p eod you are going to be getting really close to the 100mg fully absorbed into your body. Say your pinning test e at 800mg a week, you will only get about 75% of that absorbed over the entire half life of the enthanate ester. I'm not exactly sure of the percetages but you get the idea. Its been a long time since I had the exact numbers in my head. And Tren is not a nandrolone. Tren, NPP and Deca are all 19 nortestosterones, and aren't usually stacked together due to high prolactin levels associated with those compounds. To OP, what are your goals with this cycle?? I would drop the test prop and run test e or c, keep the tren a, loose the tren e and keep the mast and var. Then you need to consider a high dose of test or low dose. Personally I love 300mg a wk of test e with 700mg a wk of tren a, I ran 700mg a week of tren a for 12 weeks. For you, I would recommend 400mg a week of tren a. 100mg eod. 600mg a wk of mast and 50-100mg of var ed for 4-6 weeks. Cycle length would be 8-12 weeks.
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