Thread: Bloodwork

Originally Posted by iconpharma

hct 52% isnt a concern. tens of millions of people live at altitude and have much higher HB and hct, 50% is a general guideline not death line lol. HCT and HB can be impacted by low iron so when ur iron is better lets see what ti is then but dont forget that over 70% of ALL TRT (low dosage) guys in the world have higher then 'normal' HB and HCT. not dangerous at all.

if we are talking 58% and 60% then yes thats not where u wanna be. slight out of range due to sportive nature and optimised hormones is normal and even wanted

also check the iron panel now so we can confirm it. testing is knowing always remember. testing is knowing. so test ferritin, iron total, iron saturation, transferrin and transferrin saturation


then put the tests here, dont take any supps yet let us see what the numbers are and then its easy to start pushing iron up and retesting in 5-6 weeks. always test before and after something, never just after cause then u wont know the change it made. b12 should be easily available online just google it. its a vitamin so not hard to get.

Thanks brother ill keep you updated I really appreciate this! Going to get tested ASAP.

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Originally Posted by iconpharma

hct 52% isnt a concern. tens of millions of people live at altitude and have much higher HB and hct, 50% is a general guideline not death line lol. HCT and HB can be impacted by low iron so when ur iron is better lets see what ti is then but dont forget that over 70% of ALL TRT (low dosage) guys in the world have higher then 'normal' HB and HCT. not dangerous at all.

if we are talking 58% and 60% then yes thats not where u wanna be. slight out of range due to sportive nature and optimised hormones is normal and even wanted

also check the iron panel now so we can confirm it. testing is knowing always remember. testing is knowing. so test ferritin, iron total, iron saturation, transferrin and transferrin saturation


then put the tests here, dont take any supps yet let us see what the numbers are and then its easy to start pushing iron up and retesting in 5-6 weeks. always test before and after something, never just after cause then u wont know the change it made. b12 should be easily available online just google it. its a vitamin so not hard to get.

One more thing brother if I can pick your brain is there anything else you see as a concern? Liver enzymes slightly elevated due to sdrol and obvious aas test and npp currently running NAC, milk thistle, l-glutathione (twin tiger) to support liver. Should I throw in some Tudca as well? Only running 4 weeks max on sdrol and dropping it.

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Originally Posted by Patty_Mac253

One more thing brother if I can pick your brain is there anything else you see as a concern? Liver enzymes slightly elevated due to sdrol and obvious aas test and npp currently running NAC, milk thistle, l-glutathione (twin tiger) to support liver. Should I throw in some Tudca as well? Only running 4 weeks max on sdrol and dropping it.

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Is it possible you were dehydrated when you had the bloods pulled? Drink caffeine or alcohol?

Did you do a CMP & CBC? If yes can you post the complete results with ranges...you're obviously in the process of educating yourself on how to review bloods & identity possible issues. The more variables that are identified, providing the big picture, the better the odds of success.

In regards to hematocrit...how's your BP? This combination is what I've always focused on. As far as IP's comments...yes 52 'alone' is not a big concern. What concerns me is a level of 52 combined with high BP. My BP is usually @ 140's/80's. For this reason I don't like my hematocrit to be above 45. Although I don't like those BP #'s after 21yrs of running AAS I'm not too concerned. I came off my OTC protocol for @ a yr and my BP jumped to 160/98. Got bk on the OTC's and it dropped back down.

IMO, as far as reviewing bloods drawn from a BB'r hobbyist, it's not about one or a few health markers, it's about all the health markers. IMO organ stress or blood deficiencies/conditions combined with high BP is a reason for concern.

I'm a guy who always encourages and appreciates sharing data that can be substantiated. In cases like this tho there is no cookie cutter fix all. Phlebotomy is my go to once my hematocrit passes 45 and it's yielded the desired results for me. I have probably on average done this once a yr and I immediately feel better.

At one point I refused to donate because I thought why would I give away blood full of expensive ass hormones. How would I respond if I donated more often, hell I don't know, but at this point watching my health markers and donating accordingly has worked for me.

How about some basic stats? Age, height, weight, bf%?

For Liver protection I've always used NAC & Tudca while on orals and I add Milk Thistle once off the orals.

This OTC protocol has always been a favorite of mine. A friend recently approached me in regards to high hemoglobin and I encouraged him to look in to my OTC regimen. A fews after starting it his markers were back in range.

Ubiquinol
Fish Oil
Garlic
Red Yeast Rice
Berberine
Curcumin Phytosome
Grapefruit extract (or 1 LG fruit ED)
Green Tea

Originally Posted by Riggs

Is it possible you were dehydrated when you had the bloods pulled? Drink caffeine or alcohol?

Did you do a CMP & CBC? If yes can you post the complete results with ranges...you're obviously in the process of educating yourself on how to review bloods & identity possible issues. The more variables that are identified, providing the big picture, the better the odds of success.

In regards to hematocrit...how's your BP? This combination is what I've always focused on. As far as IP's comments...yes 52 'alone' is not a big concern. What concerns me is a level of 52 combined with high BP. My BP is usually @ 140's/80's. For this reason I don't like my hematocrit to be above 45. Although I don't like those BP #'s after 21yrs of running AAS I'm not too concerned. I came off my OTC protocol for @ a yr and my BP jumped to 160/98. Got bk on the OTC's and it dropped back down.

IMO, as far as reviewing bloods drawn from a BB'r hobbyist, it's not about one or a few health markers, it's about all the health markers. IMO organ stress or blood deficiencies/conditions combined with high BP is a reason for concern.

I'm a guy who always encourages and appreciates sharing data that can be substantiated. In cases like this tho there is no cookie cutter fix all. Phlebotomy is my go to once my hematocrit passes 45 and it's yielded the desired results for me. I have probably on average done this once a yr and I immediately feel better.

At one point I refused to donate because I thought why would I give away blood full of expensive ass hormones. How would I respond if I donated more often, hell I don't know, but at this point watching my health markers and donating accordingly has worked for me.

How about some basic stats? Age, height, weight, bf%?

For Liver protection I've always used NAC & Tudca while on orals and I add Milk Thistle once off the orals.

This OTC protocol has always been a favorite of mine. A friend recently approached me in regards to high hemoglobin and I encouraged him to look in to my OTC regimen. A fews after starting it his markers were back in range.

Ubiquinol
Fish Oil
Garlic
Red Yeast Rice
Berberine
Curcumin Phytosome
Grapefruit extract (or 1 LG fruit ED)
Green Tea

32
5' 11"
190
BF% 10.8

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Originally Posted by Riggs

Is it possible you were dehydrated when you had the bloods pulled? Drink caffeine or alcohol?

Did you do a CMP & CBC? If yes can you post the complete results with ranges...you're obviously in the process of educating yourself on how to review bloods & identity possible issues. The more variables that are identified, providing the big picture, the better the odds of success.

In regards to hematocrit...how's your BP? This combination is what I've always focused on. As far as IP's comments...yes 52 'alone' is not a big concern. What concerns me is a level of 52 combined with high BP. My BP is usually @ 140's/80's. For this reason I don't like my hematocrit to be above 45. Although I don't like those BP #'s after 21yrs of running AAS I'm not too concerned. I came off my OTC protocol for @ a yr and my BP jumped to 160/98. Got bk on the OTC's and it dropped back down.

IMO, as far as reviewing bloods drawn from a BB'r hobbyist, it's not about one or a few health markers, it's about all the health markers. IMO organ stress or blood deficiencies/conditions combined with high BP is a reason for concern.

I'm a guy who always encourages and appreciates sharing data that can be substantiated. In cases like this tho there is no cookie cutter fix all. Phlebotomy is my go to once my hematocrit passes 45 and it's yielded the desired results for me. I have probably on average done this once a yr and I immediately feel better.

At one point I refused to donate because I thought why would I give away blood full of expensive ass hormones. How would I respond if I donated more often, hell I don't know, but at this point watching my health markers and donating accordingly has worked for me.

How about some basic stats? Age, height, weight, bf%?

For Liver protection I've always used NAC & Tudca while on orals and I add Milk Thistle once off the orals.

This OTC protocol has always been a favorite of mine. A friend recently approached me in regards to high hemoglobin and I encouraged him to look in to my OTC regimen. A fews after starting it his markers were back in range.

Ubiquinol
Fish Oil
Garlic
Red Yeast Rice
Berberine
Curcumin Phytosome
Grapefruit extract (or 1 LG fruit ED)
Green Tea

Possibly dehydrated did bloods in the morning after a 12 hr fast I was sipping water prior 2 blood draw tho...

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Originally Posted by Patty_Mac253

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190
BF% 10.8

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Clean.

How's your blood pressure? Resting HR?