Thread: Stacking Orals, Cycle Help

So in a few weeks I am going to start up my 50mg of Var again. I actually shaped up pretty well in the last few months, about 10lb of muscle. Iv'e used NPP in the past for bulking but really I sort of don't like it overall, and I'm on Finasteride now so I can't take it at all. Which leads me here. This is what I'm thinking about my next blast.

I am cruising, I don't come off test for reference.

Also I might as well ask, via mechanism of action, doesn't it make more sense to dose your orals all pre workout so it binds to the muscle tissue to grow it rather than taking it for elevated blood levels? Iv'e heard both but lately iv'e been doing more reading and realizing that with maybe the exception of Var, you'd wanna dose everything an hour before your workout regarding orals. Is this just wrong? Stable blood levels make more sense for oils, but with orals I'm not so sure now.

300mg of Test E/wk
50mg Var a day
MK677 or straight Generic GH (My hunger suffers on orals so perhaps the mk677 is better here.)


Optional Stack Tbol 25mg, or Dbol 25mg ED (Dbol converts to DHT so My finasteride will help with this.) Also, apparently Dbol is chemically changed so it has a weaker binding affinity for the androgen receptor in the hair anyway, this was developed for women to take in the 1960s, of course they were 5mg pills, not 50mg. Sort of out the door once it's dosed at the body building level. Or 25mg Var/ 25 mg Dbol split?

Wanted to add I currently take Test E for TRT at 200mg, that gives me the best feeling which. I plan on trying out Sust for the first time actually coming up quickly, both for cycling and TRT.

What's the recommended TRT dose closest to what I take now, since iv'e never taken a blend of esters before. I do have experience with Test P though.

Dang I was trying to avoid more frequent pinning by switching to sus. As of now I pin 3 times a week with Test E, and that's been most stable. I Just hate the dips in mood.

I had a lot of anxiety and nervousness, and although maybe decided TRT in my late 20's wasn't ideal, it solved a lot of issues on just being more comfortable in my own skin and overall confidence in life. That's why I keep it around 200mg. But was thinking about Sus since most TRT guys end up on that one way or another.

I do sus twice a week and it’s fine

Iconpharma gave good advice.
Mon,Wed,Fri is fine for Sust.
I personally would need to space orals out otherwise id have acne issues.
Make sure you have some Tudca if your going to smash some orals.
Have you looked into injectable preworkouts?
Also if you dont already, have an AI on hand.
Have a plan and stick to it.
You want measurable results.
Log it down somewhere.

Will I notice a difference between Sus and Test E? Iv'e been on E for 3 years now. I am trying to lower the size of the harpoons and perhaps use Insulin needles with removable needles ? Iv'e seen these at clinics but I haven't seen them for sale actually so a PM where I can get those would be great.

I Have tolerable skin fortunately, just an unfortunate disused thinning of hair. I got a hair transplant last year but damn, nobody told me my hair was thinning out more than I realized so Im on finasteride and all that jazz...Libido definitely takes a hit, so I'm thinking I gotta add some Tongkat Ali and Cialis. But it's worth it.

I switch between exemestane and adex, depending on what I have. I run TUDCA at 500mg a day.

I am a fan of DBOL for the alpha feeling, and I love the results of VAR. Iv'e ran real TBOL twice and love it. Don't know at the moment which to stack with VAR. I actually am looking at a couple labs on here but they don't offer injectable Orals. I wouldn't mind learning more, but I know they're very different. From what I recall the injectable dbol half life is closer to a couple days, and has less pronounced and immediate sides the orals cause.

That said, if anyone also has used DHT gel/ointment for their willy and had great results, please PM me lol. I know of one company that sells it but they're kinda unreliable from what iv'e read. Surprised I don't see it more.

Ya I can’t tell a difference


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