Thread: Building a gyno friendly cycle

Originally Posted by MattDamon47

Age: 30
Height: 5%11
Fat: 13%

So I have pre existing gyno from the prohormones days. Started on trt for 3 months. Tapered from 100 to 200 over the next 3 moths. At 200mg implemented .5mg adex twice a week to control estro. Again very prone because I already have it. Did that for 6 weeks. Decided to do a miny cycle of 250 test 250 deca. Had to then increase to 1mg twice a week of Adex. Finally the forun be Ok convince me I HAD to go to 500 test. I totally of bloat, blood pressure went up and gyno went out of control to 1mg eod and 40mgs of tomoxofin wouldn't stop it. So now what I did is skip my dose to get my levels down and gonna go on my cruise of 200 test maybe even 175 if needed and 100 deca.

So anyway I want to do one more cycle before surgery that would be gyno friendly. I'm thinking:

200mgs of test c
250-500 deca
200-400 mgs of mast or good primo if I can find it

While hopefully keeping a.I to around .5 to 1mg twice a week
Still do .5 caber twice a week
And 20mgs of nolva

Suggestions comments all welcome. Thank you

500 Test week, you ran Adex 1mg EOD, Nolva 40mg ED, and you still had gyno? You sure the Adex/Nolva was properly dosed? Just putting that on the table. If they are legit then the objective is to figure out why and where the down regulation of T is occurring.

Switch to Asin 12.5mg EOD (can ramp to 25mg ED AT THE MOST but it's still safe at that dose), Nolva 20mg ED from day 1, and Pfizer Caber .5mg M/W/Th. I'm a poor responsder to Adex, Nolva worked for my gyno nut took 3 months to subside, Asin is much safer for long term use than Adex, and Caber was the last piece of the puzzle on my efforts to dissipate my left nip gyno.

ALSO VERY IMPORTANT THERE'S A DRUG INTERACTION WITH ADEX AND LETRO. HEADS UP. ONE LOWERS EFFICACY OF THE OTHER BY @ 27%. SO ADEX & LETRO ARE A NO GO TOGETHER.

I also Prefer Proviron over Mast for this purpose.

I did read a suggestion to drop the Nandrolone and add Tren. Tren is a derivative of Nandrolone and I STRONGLY discourage you from adding Tren. IMO this is not an ideal time to add a hormone like Tren. This will only further complicate your ability to identify the cause of your gyno. If you're gonna drop the Deca then wouldn't add anything like Tren in it's place especially a hormone you've never run b4.

You offered a good amount of info/data but there are a lot of variables still not identified.....I would need those details along with the time lines before I could give a solid recommendation for your AAS and ancillaries. You also don't have bloods. A $80 blood panel would be very insightful.

One important question that's not been asked is how was your libido when you were experiencing high BP, bloat and gyno? Could you achieve a full erection of last as long as desired, and climax when it was time? Meaning did you experience difficulty ejaculating?
But off what I hear/see alone.....elevated BP, bloating, and gyno flare up when T ramped to 500mg week with 250mg Deca......

With what I know right now I'd encourage....

120mg Test E 3 x week
100mg NPP 3 x week
Var 20mg 2 x ED (up to 80mg)
12.5mg Asin EOD
.5mg Caber M/W/Fri
20mg Nolva ED

IMO there have been too many changes going on. Consistency is paramount. The ongoing changes you've made only complicate your ability to identify your specific response to the AAS. While blasting my focus is on identifying how and where I down regulate T on that specific cycle. I lay out a protocol and do my very best to see it thru.

Also, and I see it all the time, no one has asked what your diet was like during the transition to 500mg T. Did you make any rapid changes in diet @ the time you ramped T to 500? If I run Deca @ 800 with ancillaries and diet on point I experience very little bloat. I can run Deca @ 500 with a lazy approach to diet and ancillaries and BP elevates, I bloat, and I have the "chipmunk face."