Thread: First real post

For sure

Before reading this, lets all keep in mind that we are dealing with underground lab and these labs are not held to strict standards and regulations.
I wish there was some lab you could send samples of actual anabolics in, so they could be tested for actual dosage. After doing some research I have found some startling results, now keep in mind, I AM NOT saying that the labs we use have this problem I am just saying that the following has been documented.
This is only a brief summary of UGL labs testing results and they are published.
LABS USED: Sciroxx, IP, Diamond, British Dragon, X Gear, Hard Core Labs, Generic Supplements, and a few other randoms


The labs where blinded, meaning these samples were random and without identification, or atleast were not published in the report. I have access to reports for SPECIFIC LABS, I can post these if requested, I am still obtaining reports and will not have the complete list for a while.



HERE ARE A FEW PROBLEMS WITH AAS FROM UNDERGROUND LABS FOUND THROUGH LABORATORY TESTING UNBIASED.
1) Contamination of Heavy Metals: Out of 14 random underground compounds tested, 3 were contaminated with heavy metals.

2)DOSAGE VS LABEL CLAIM (RANDOM)

methandrostenolone label claim: 25mg ACTUAL DOSE:115mg
testosterone enanthate label claim: 250mg ACTUAL DOSE: 440mg
testosterone propionate label claim:75mg ACTUAL DOSE: 127mg
testosterone cypionate label claim:200mg ACTUAL DOSE 177mg
boldenone udecylenate label claim: 200mg ACTUAL DOSE 178 mg
trenbolone enanthate label claim 100mg ACTUAL DOSE 0mg

*As you can see here the dosage and label claims are significantly different, these are just a FEW examples, there were many more than tested way over, way under and some were right on label claim. Im just expressing the inconsitency here.
*Most of the time its with these mass produced ".com" labs that have these inconsitencies

3)OIL PURITY
Out of 14 random underground compounds 2 were found to have a contamination of 2,4-Decadienal (a chemical found in FOOD GRADE oils)

4)The most widely faked label claim: Nandrolone Decanoate (deca durobolin): A significant amount of these samples were found to be testosterone instead of nandrolone.

5)Masteron and Primo: A significant amount of these were found to be boldenone undecylenate

6)Least faked hormone: Testosterone; its relatively cheap to make.

7)Trenbolone: A significant amount of these were either fake (no hormone), equipose, or small amounts of trenbolone with testosterone

Growth Hormone: The most widely counterfited product on the market. (Usually HCG)


WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS?
I just thought it was interesting the inconsitencies found with label claims. I AM NOT saying don't use UGL gear. I USE UGL gear! I just wish there was a way to test the actual hormone.

For example: If I think I am doing 600mg a week of testosterone, but Im actually doing 1100mg week due to false claims, this could be a potential problem considering various things from length and duration of use, AI use, the ratio of other compounds used ect.

If I buy some Deca to stack with my test and the deca is actually just test, then I could end up running 2g of test without knowing it!

*There are some very reliable and accurate UGL's. I avoid all of the mass produced ones, those are the ones with the most common inconsistencies (IP, Sciroxx, ect)

Remember UGL arent inspected by anyone and do not have to follow strict guidelines

Again, I am not knocking UGL products, I just thought everyone should be aware of this.

Most counterfeited HUMAN GRADE steroids: Sustanon 250 NILE EGYPT, ALL of the Sustanons tested from egypt had no hormone in them, the Sustanon 250 KARACHI PAKISTAN that were tested ALL WERE LEGIT AND PASSED.

Most counterfeited: Deca (nandrolone decanoate): ALL Norma Hellas tested were indeed counterfeit and contained Testosterone. Britsh Dragon "Decabol" was nothing more than testosterone as well.

ALL British Dragon Trenabol was found to be Equipose and Test

Britsh Dragon Trenabol 75, 100, 200 all failed, the actual contents were boldenone and testosterone.

A word on aqua suspensions: Bacteria growth in oil based steroids are easily controlled. Water based suspensions take extensive precautionary measures.
1. Bacteria is difficult to grow in oil.
2. The BA kills most if not all bacteria and acts as a preventitive.

Heres is an exert from William Llewellyns “Underground Anabolics”
The samples in question were obtained from the infamous Alin, and were waterbased.

“Of the four water based products that were sent into the lab, three samples contained very high levels of bacteria. The only water-based product that passed bacteria screening was an (additional) ampule of Alpha Pharma stanozolol (lot RX8001). Alpha Pharma is a registered pharmaceutical exporter in India. Their products are not sold domestically in that country, but are not considered ‘underground,’ either. If the product with lot RX7001 actually came from the same company (which we cannot say for certain), it would underline how difficult it can be to assemble sterile water-based products. As a registered manufacturer, this company should have extensive quality control measures in place (the second lot did pass inspection). India, after all, does have a fairly developed pharmaceutical industry. Still we find bacteria in one of the samples.”


BACTERIA LIST (BREIF)
Bacteria-Contaminated Products (OIL)

Steroid Listed Manufacturer Lot # Expiration CFU (Bacteria)
Nandrolone dec. Diamond 00022 05/01/2012 1,500 CFU*
Testosterone prop. Elite Fitness 0070312 12/2010 100 CFU
Testosterone enan. Unigen E803 02/2010 100 CFU
Drostanolone enan. Golden Gear 138 06/2011 100 CFU
*Acceptable limit <100 CFU

Oil-based steroids that were analyzed from each of the following companies/underground labs were clean, with no significant bacterial level:

Axio Labs
Asia Pharma
Balkan Pharmaceuticals
Dutch Lab
Geneza Pharmaceuticals
Euro Pharmaceuticals
Eurochem
Genshi
Jinan
Lyka
ROHM
Sciroxx
IP China

These reports are older and many of these labs are no longer around. I am working on getting the newest reports.

Good info. Interested to see some new data if you have it. Sounds like small batch vendors are better than mass produced too from what I'm seeing.

Its hard to tell. Either find a good reputable veteran UG lab or go human grade. I have been fortunate enough to obtain both.