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Deca with tren?
I see vials of blends with tren and deca and say masteron together. But I've read that tren and deca should not be in the same stack. ??? Opinions please.
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The thing of ite is that tren is so so receptor against that everything else, kinda falls by the way side.
Also deca and tren can really mess with progesterone, but it hasn't stopped me a couple times.
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Thanks! How was your experience that 'couple of times '?
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I think you get to the point you feel like yiurbwwstingbthe deca.
But a deca eq, t base is good bmich gains b
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Originally Posted by
mastermonster
I see vials of blends with tren and deca and say masteron together. But I've read that tren and deca should not be in the same stack. ??? Opinions please.
May i ask if your just wondering or planning on mixing the two? There is a lot of bigger brains on here then myself. In my opinion. I would say no. Mixing two 19nors is rough. Even if you have caber or prami on hand. Its rough. Your progesterone would be gnarly. My opinion though. Not a fact.
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Have you ran Test and Deca?
Have you ran Test and Tren?
If you haven't done both... NO, don't mix them until you know how your body responds to both of those compounds.
If you have, ran both Deca and Tren alone with Test, then you can start to experiment. There is no one for all, we all respond differently.
You will want a DA (dopamine agonist) Caber or Prami on hand. However, if you take an AI correctly, you most likely won't need them. Better safe though. I have needed to use Prami in the past.
If you don't know what those are and what they do, you are not ready, do more research.
If you don't know how an AI can prevent you from needing to use a DA and the mechanism of action.
You aren't ready, do more research.
You could start 400mg Test E, 300 Deca, and it depends on the Tren you are using.
What I do:
There is an overuse of AI. Research the power of estrogen. People use cookie cutter doses, and miss out on serious gains.
I run Nolva to block receptors in breast/chest. So I don't run an AI. Many say not to run Nolvadex with Tren or Deca, but the regarded issue is negligible. Some pro's block with Nolva. Seth Feroce is an example.
I have never had an issue.
This will mean estrogen is higher, because of no AI.
There are positives, and negatives with regards to health.
Some will see increase in Blood Pressure, other issues.
It's not for everyone.
I don't have an issue with blood pressure.
I blast and cruise.... but I really cruise. It's needed. Long term higher estrogen poses health risk.
Higher estrogen along with some water retention, makes me feel good and strong AF.
I use an AI around summer time to tighten up my look. It dries me out, and makes my hard work show.
There is alot involved. Research in detail. The information is here and there.
Be safe, find what works for you... don't be sorry.
"It's a lot of hard work, it's hard work that most people don't realize. I think the consistency of the hard work, is the hardest part." Dallas McCarver
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Thanks for the input! I've done test e and tren a before in my 50's as a powerlifter. I'm about to be 65 now and that's a concern. I was considering doing a tren e and test e blast and cruise. I am on trt. I'm leaning more towards a deca / test e blast the more I research at my age. I asked my question because I saw the tren/deca and masteron (if I remember right) blends advertised. It raised a red flag....I'll leave it alone and also the tren I think.
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Originally Posted by
mastermonster
Thanks for the input! I've done test e and tren a before in my 50's as a powerlifter. I'm about to be 65 now and that's a concern. I was considering doing a tren e and test e blast and cruise. I am on trt. I'm leaning more towards a deca / test e blast the more I research at my age. I asked my question because I saw the tren/deca and masteron (if I remember right) blends advertised. It raised a red flag....I'll leave it alone and also the tren I think.
Blends are fine if the ratio fits your needs.
The overall answer is that people do run all those compounds together. It's fine if you have experience with them. Blends are convenient. I make blends for taking on vacation. I drive, but have hidden area for the one or two vials I take. I usually only need 4 injections if gone 2 weeks.
I also have with pins with vial of injectable B12 as the distraction should I ever be searched. I have my wife and kids with me. I have Exempt on my CPL, and my job and ID pretty much means they aren't going to even suspect me.
So blends are convenient also because you don't have to draw from multiple vials.
"It's a lot of hard work, it's hard work that most people don't realize. I think the consistency of the hard work, is the hardest part." Dallas McCarver
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I second the issues with progesterone. Running both can really mess with you. I also definitely agree with if you haven't ran both separately dont do them together. Ive never ran them together but the way i react to tren and deca i dont see why i would. They seem to work towards opposite goals for me personally. Except obviously strength
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