Need help on next cycle, any help would be appreciated

**F33ltheburn** · 03-10-2021, 01:25 AM

I usually do test e and tren e , but Tren takes my cardio away a shoots up my blood pressure.

I like to have cardio and be a little more active and I like my size right now when it comes to bulk , I would like to be more cut and defined. I have been looking into EQ, deca and other ones

What do you guys recommend , much appreciated

**Riggs** · 03-10-2021, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by F33ltheburn

I usually do test e and tren e , but Tren takes my cardio away a shoots up my blood pressure.

I like to have cardio and be a little more active and I like my size right now when it comes to bulk , I would like to be more cut and defined. I have been looking into EQ, deca and other ones

What do you guys recommend , much appreciated

I love a good Test P/NPP/Mast P blend of 100mg each for a recomp. .7cc ED (70mg each of the 3 hormones) and I've had great success with my guys.

Train like a serious athlete, spend the necessary time in the kitchen, rest rest then rest more, keep a detailed journal and do bloods.

**F33ltheburn** · 03-10-2021, 01:52 AM

Thanks are there any crazy side effects of npp and mast p bc I have only done Tren and test

**cyberninja** · 03-10-2021, 02:30 AM

Npp is a 19 nor so it can impact prolactin (cabergoline)but if your doses aren’t crazy or infrequent you should be good. But keep caber on hand just in case. Never heard of any sides from mast except maybe hair loss. I love the stuff!

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**F33ltheburn** · 03-10-2021, 02:36 AM

What’s caber ? I use arimidex for an AI and hcg and nolva for pct

**jrock645** · 03-10-2021, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by F33ltheburn

What’s caber ? I use arimidex for an AI and hcg and nolva for pct

it’s for prolactin control

**F33ltheburn** · 03-10-2021, 02:42 AM

Is tht the full name ?

**Riggs** · 03-10-2021, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by F33ltheburn

Is tht the full name ?

Pfizer Cabergoline is a DA (Dopamine) agonist. DA is known as the PIF (Prolactin Inhibiting Factor). Stimulate DA and PRL is inhibited.

**cyberninja** · 03-10-2021, 03:20 AM

Cabergoline is the go to for prolactin control when running any 19-nor steroid Npp, deca Trestalone, Tren, etc I may be forgetting some. If prolactin becomes elevated you can experience prolactin related gyno and possibly Ed.

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**Riggs** · 03-10-2021, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by F33ltheburn

Thanks are there any crazy side effects of npp and mast p bc I have only done Tren and test

Knowing you've not run Mast or NPP the smart thing to do is run Test/NPP log/journal every damn detail in regards to how you respond. Then the next cycle do Test/NPP/Mast.

However IMO if you don't go over the doses I mentioned then that's not at all a bad idea. It's a great fucking recomp.

I'm not the end all or know all. I'm not there to ask you all the necessary questions to identify all the pertinent variables when deciding on a protocol. You need to do your own research. We have lots of good Vets here that you can talk with via pm and acquire a ton of yrs or experience in short order. I'd be damned surprised if a BOP Vet ever gave you shitty it reckless advice.