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Thanks for all the advice I know there are bloodwork threads but can anybody point me to thr cheapest private Lab and wich test to perform?
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Originally Posted by
Trtquest
Thanks for all the advice I know there are bloodwork threads but can anybody point me to thr cheapest private Lab and wich test to perform?
PrivateMDLabs.com
-Hormone Testing
--Bodybuilder Testing
---Hormone Panel with Prolactin
It includes CBC, CMP, Estradiol, FSH, LH, Prolactin, TT(LC/MS).
I would add (since you're on a 19-nor) the Estradiol ultrasensitive LC/MS.
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Some solid advice here for sure.
I definitely recommend blood work. If you go into a cycle and don’t set money to the side for bloods, you’re doing it wrong.
I definitely think too much Adex will not be good either and if you don’t know your AI’s and haven’t played I’d recommend Aromasin first.
Nolva to stop the estrogen from binding to the receptor won’t kill you until you do your bloods but some dudes don’t need it unless they are sensitive.
I went back and forth with caber for years. Now I realize I love it. I won’t do bloods to find out I need it. I’ll use caber right off the rip and love it’s several benefits BESIDES just keeping prolactin in check.
Last. Try ultalabs for bloods man. Privatemd is good but they are pricey.
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Originally Posted by
Jetblack14316
Some solid advice here for sure.
I definitely recommend blood work. If you go into a cycle and don’t set money to the side for bloods, you’re doing it wrong.
I definitely think too much Adex will not be good either and if you don’t know your AI’s and haven’t played I’d recommend Aromasin first.
Nolva to stop the estrogen from binding to the receptor won’t kill you until you do your bloods but some dudes don’t need it unless they are sensitive.
I went back and forth with caber for years. Now I realize I love it. I won’t do bloods to find out I need it. I’ll use caber right off the rip and love it’s several benefits BESIDES just keeping prolactin in check.
Last. Try ultalabs for bloods man. Privatemd is good but they are pricey.
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Agree on all counts. Caber with any 19-Nor should always at the very least be on hand. Certainly, when I ran Tren, I found it best to just use the Caber even before any prolactin sides. It's OK to have Adex in case of an emergency IMO but it tends to crash estro, has nasty joint sides, etc. Definitely think Aromasin/Exemestane is the first-line treatment for preventing gyno.
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Type-IIx
Agree on all counts. Caber with any 19-Nor should always at the very least be on hand. Certainly, when I ran Tren, I found it best to just use the Caber even before any prolactin sides. It's OK to have Adex in case of an emergency IMO but it tends to crash estro, has nasty joint sides, etc. Definitely think Aromasin/Exemestane is the first-line treatment for preventing gyno.
I think if you’re trying to “prevent gyno” then you know you’re prone and you should use Caber, nolva, and Asin right off the bat. None of those, if used and they weren’t 100% needed, will yield results like gyno will. So don’t wait, run it. The goal should be to prevent any imbalance that throws you in a position you don’t want to be in. You can prevent gyno and still absolutely crash you E2...it’s a bitch of a thing to balance.
Again just my opinion. Caber has several benefits aside from just prolactin control.
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Nolvadex.....do a Google search and read up on it. Just say'n....
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Riggs
Nolvadex.....do a Google search and read up on it. Just say'n....
Not dick riding. Your protocol for nolva e.d has worked great for me. I was running strictly adex before the knowledge. Sometimes letro. I run 10-20mgs e.d of nolva
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Originally Posted by
Popeye*
Arimidex won’t do shit for gyno (no studies I have found yet).
What I have done in the past that had helped:
100mg p5p daily if running nandrolone
nolvadex 25-50mg daily or clomid equivalent
I have lowered dosages of gear during self treatment or just went to test and nolva.
Obviously bloodwork is going to take a little bit to get back (if u even consider getting them done). In the mean time I would get to work on getting rid of that lump post haste big dawg. Regulate those hormones. May check into more frequent injections and finding a number of each compound that works with the least amount of negative side effects. Zinc also help with leveling estrogen levels. 30-50mg a day is what I intake.
Check below as reference
Gynecomastia: Etiology, Diagnosis, and Treatment - Endotext - NCBI Bookshelf
Not talking shit. Clomid is a anti estrogen?
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Originally Posted by
Damnwideback90
Not dick riding. Your protocol for nolva e.d has worked great for me. I was running strictly adex before the knowledge. Sometimes letro. I run 10-20mgs e.d of nolva
I used to have serious gyno issues everytime I ran test and npp anything over 300 a week, ever since I started taking nolva all year round and specially well on cycle haven't Eben had tenderness at 10mg a day. On my hCG shot days I take 10mg 2x a day so every other day with my hcg because its caused some serious estro sides. Oddly enough I feel like running the mast at the same dose as my test and npp I haven't needed an AI the entire time on cycle., if anything I feel like its got it a little lower then I would like if that's possible?
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