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      Anavar, ketones?

      First time on Anavar 50mg. 5 days a week on training days. Sublingual.10 weeks along with trt.
      Looks like Blood in urine. Urine test shows Ketones. Is this Anavar related? Anyone with any experience on this? Please help.
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      First off, I've never heard of sublingual anavar, but from a medical viewpoint blood in urine (hematuria) is most commonly caused by a kidney stone, or even excessive muscle breakdown (rhabdomyolysis) combined with dehydration, which can cause kidney damage. Hematuria can also be caused by UTI/bladder infections, or even l (less commonly) kidney cancer and various kidney disorders... Far as ketones, if you aren't on a keto diet, the only reason I know of that can cause that is a diabetic ketoacidosis; there are likely other variables, but that's as far as my medical training has taken me thus far.

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      I have read that anavar is more or less processed through the kidneys to a greater degree than the liver... Have you been dealing with ongoing kidney issues or is this your first time running into such?

      Perchance you've reached the limit/tolerance level, 10 weeks at 50mg 5 days a week may be entirely too much, I'd go on a complete break/abstinence period and let your body recover/recoop/heal.... Then if you want to do anavar in the future again I'd suggest a smaller dose or less weeks on.

      I know we ultimately all want to push the envelope, but everything effects us different.... I can't tolerate tren anymore, any amount just messed with my body like crazy where I used to be able to do it without too much complaint....

      Just highlighting that before the usual common saying of "well that's only 50mg and anavar is very safe" thought comes around... in the case you've presently presented your body is clearly stating otherwise! I've learnt too many things the hard way by ignoring the warnings and pushing through with abandon.

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      Quote Originally Posted by unclemoney View Post
      I have read that anavar is more or less processed through the kidneys to a greater degree than the liver... Have you been dealing with ongoing kidney issues or is this your first time running into such?

      Perchance you've reached the limit/tolerance level, 10 weeks at 50mg 5 days a week may be entirely too much, I'd go on a complete break/abstinence period and let your body recover/recoop/heal.... Then if you want to do anavar in the future again I'd suggest a smaller dose or less weeks on.

      I know we ultimately all want to push the envelope, but everything effects us different.... I can't tolerate tren anymore, any amount just messed with my body like crazy where I used to be able to do it without too much complaint....

      Just highlighting that before the usual common saying of "well that's only 50mg and anavar is very safe" thought comes around... in the case you've presently presented your body is clearly stating otherwise! I've learnt too many things the hard way by ignoring the warnings and pushing through with abandon.
      This is the first time with this type of problem. I've read here that 12 weeks was the minimum and that some did dissolve it under the tongue.

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      Well it’s not that Anavar is “more” processed through the kidneys. All oral drugs are processed and absorbed in the liver, circulated around the body, then excreted through the kidneys. It’s possible that Anavar is more kidney toxic than other compounds but I’ve never read anything about that. It would probably be smart to drop the Anavar because if you are incurring kidney damage right now it’s permanent and you’ll want to minimize that damage. We have about a million nephrons (tiny filters) in our kidneys and the more we lose, the less effective they become at filtering our blood; people with kidney failure who are in dialysis essentially have too few of these nephrons for the kidneys to do their job.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Argon Coagulator View Post
      Well it’s not that Anavar is “more” processed through the kidneys. All oral drugs are processed and absorbed in the liver, circulated around the body, then excreted through the kidneys. It’s possible that Anavar is more kidney toxic than other compounds but I’ve never read anything about that. It would probably be smart to drop the Anavar because if you are incurring kidney damage right now it’s permanent and you’ll want to minimize that damage. We have about a million nephrons (tiny filters) in our kidneys and the more we lose, the less effective they become at filtering our blood; people with kidney failure who are in dialysis essentially have too few of these nephrons for the kidneys to do their job.


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      Just replying with a quick quote from good ol' google:

      "Kidney Toxicity

      Anavar is unique compared to other anabolic steroids, as the kidneys share more of the workload when processing Oxandrolone upon entry.
      The advantage to this is that there is less hepatic (liver) inflammation, and the disadvantage is that there is increased renal (kidney) inflammation.
      Thus, there is a risk of acute or chronic kidney injury should Anavar be abused i.e. taken in high dosages or for an excessively long time (beyond 8 weeks).
      For optimal kidney health, users should get regular checkups before, during and after Anavar cycles; to monitor serum creatinine levels.
      Also, the more diligent Anavar users are in regards to their cardiovascular health (performing regular cardio exercise, reducing sodium intake, etc.); the healthier their kidneys will be.
      This is because high blood pressure damages blood vessels in the kidneys, causing nephron tubules to die; which are the kidney cells needed to filter water out of the body."

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      We don't all experience the possible sides of any given compound, but some of us do, and I definitely believe the OP's present circumstances was definitely brought on by the anavar (if I was willing to take a bet). Just like I cannot use mk677, I'd absolutely love to as I'm always looking for ways to pack on more size and I love how it increases appetite thus making it easier to add in more calories.... But unfortunately for me... It gives me the runs and messes with my digestive tract too much... Whereas others might get slight discomfort/disturbance, for me it is entirely too much to be worth it.... I just happen to be an outlier for many compounds and have to stay away because I get like the worst possible sides... What used to be a great big pool of compounds to choose from has become very narrow to me now in terms of what my body will tolerate.
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      Anavar, ketones?

      Quote Originally Posted by unclemoney View Post
      Just replying with a quick quote from good ol' google:

      "Kidney Toxicity

      Anavar is unique compared to other anabolic steroids, as the kidneys share more of the workload when processing Oxandrolone upon entry.
      The advantage to this is that there is less hepatic (liver) inflammation, and the disadvantage is that there is increased renal (kidney) inflammation.
      Thus, there is a risk of acute or chronic kidney injury should Anavar be abused i.e. taken in high dosages or for an excessively long time (beyond 8 weeks).
      For optimal kidney health, users should get regular checkups before, during and after Anavar cycles; to monitor serum creatinine levels.
      Also, the more diligent Anavar users are in regards to their cardiovascular health (performing regular cardio exercise, reducing sodium intake, etc.); the healthier their kidneys will be.
      This is because high blood pressure damages blood vessels in the kidneys, causing nephron tubules to die; which are the kidney cells needed to filter water out of the body."

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      We don't all experience the possible sides of any given compound, but some of us do, and I definitely believe the OP's present circumstances was definitely brought on by the anavar (if I was willing to take a bet). Just like I cannot use mk677, I'd absolutely love to as I'm always looking for ways to pack on more size and I love how it increases appetite thus making it easier to add in more calories.... But unfortunately for me... It gives me the runs and messes with my digestive tract too much... Whereas others might get slight discomfort/disturbance, for me it is entirely too much to be worth it.... I just happen to be an outlier for many compounds and have to stay away because I get like the worst possible sides... What used to be a great big pool of compounds to choose from has become very narrow to me now in terms of what my body will tolerate.
      Yeah brother, I saw that article previously, and while it’s fairly well written it doesn’t cite any sources for its information. The writer doesn’t seem to be a scientist, researcher, or physician so I would take what he says with a grain of salt. Several of the things he states are inaccurate about kidney function; ie-kidneys filter our blood, not water as he stated also, steroid use can cause scarring of the kidneys, not inflammation- that would be a serious condition known as glomerulonephritis. Usually kidney damage caused by PEDs is related to high blood pressure and high RBC counts, which are common adverse reactions to Anavar, EQ and even tren use. Dr. O’Connor has done videos on Anavar and I believe that would be a better source for information regarding Anavar.


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      OP, have you had lab work done yet? Do you still have blood in your urine?


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      Quote Originally Posted by Argon Coagulator View Post
      OP, have you had lab work done yet? Do you still have blood in your urine?


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      Just recently had labs done for that. No blood.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Argon Coagulator View Post
      Yeah brother, I saw that article previously, and while it’s fairly well written it doesn’t cite any sources for its information. The writer doesn’t seem to be a scientist, researcher, or physician so I would take what he says with a grain of salt. Several of the things he states are inaccurate about kidney function; ie-kidneys filter our blood, not water as he stated also, steroid use can cause scarring of the kidneys, not inflammation- that would be a serious condition known as glomerulonephritis. Usually kidney damage caused by PEDs is related to high blood pressure and high RBC counts, which are common adverse reactions to Anavar, EQ and even tren use. Dr. O’Connor has done videos on Anavar and I believe that would be a better source for information regarding Anavar.


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      Are those videos on YouTube?

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