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Exo-Gen
no, that was in the 90's
Hahahaha!!! That was a good one
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Originally Posted by
rocknroll
Update: yesterday (over three weeks from injection) was the first day I didn’t feel pain in my quad. Finally did leg workout felt great. I dunno…I’ve run 3-4 NPP cycles with the same sponsor.
I tossed the NPP. No way would I consider risking the pain I’ve had. Not worth it.
fwiw, as per the sponsored recommendation I got on anabiotic (urgent care gave me cephalexin) but I don’t think that really helped. I don’t believe it was an instant infection ya know? Whatever …
I’m just glad I’m back to normal. Sometimes normal feels so good ya know.
So I stopped my cycle of dbol test NPP back when pain started…will run a cycle of some sort at another point minus any NPP I guess.
thanks for everyone’s help here!
Yeah bro, I dont think you did anything wrong. Something was wrong with that npp. No way should the pip be that bad from it.
Maybe too much ba or bb. Could be bacteria. Who knows, I had some tren back in the day that hurt like that, it hurt just laying down in bed. Figured maybe hit a nerve or blah blah. So I pinned again and same thing. After that like you I tossed it.
I dont think all of a sudden your body started rejecting npp.
That vial was bad, we all make mistakes. Shit happens. I'm sure that source is still g2g. But if it were me I'd switch. Especially with npp.
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Did you ever have any redness/warmth at the injection site and/or a temperature?
NPP shouldn't be a painful injection IMO. The Phenylprop Ester has always been relatively painless in my experience, especially dosed at 100mg/ml. This goes for NPP and TPP.
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Originally Posted by
Loomer1
Yeah bro, I dont think you did anything wrong. Something was wrong with that npp. No way should the pip be that bad from it.
Maybe too much ba or bb. Could be bacteria. Who knows, I had some tren back in the day that hurt like that, it hurt just laying down in bed. Figured maybe hit a nerve or blah blah. So I pinned again and same thing. After that like you I tossed it.
I dont think all of a sudden your body started rejecting npp.
That vial was bad, we all make mistakes. Shit happens. I'm sure that source is still g2g. But if it were me I'd switch. Especially with npp.
thank you, brother! I was thinking similarly. It happens…happy thanksgiving.
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DFL
Did you ever have any redness/warmth at the injection site and/or a temperature?
NPP shouldn't be a painful injection IMO. The Phenylprop Ester has always been relatively painless in my experience, especially dosed at 100mg/ml. This goes for NPP and TPP.
neber noticed any warmth. Maybe a little redness? The pain was deep in the thigh like someone hit it with a baseball bat no joke. Yeah, have done NPP plenty before without issue. Must’ve been a poorly mixed compound is all I can figure. Leg still not but almost there. It’s certainly not restricting me from anything I want to do.
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Originally Posted by
rocknroll
neber noticed any warmth. Maybe a little redness? The pain was deep in the thigh like someone hit it with a baseball bat no joke. Yeah, have done NPP plenty before without issue. Must’ve been a poorly mixed compound is all I can figure. Leg still not �� but almost there. It’s certainly not restricting me from anything I want to do.
Sounds like it was probably some pyrogenic endotoxin contamination IMO.
Quite a few variables that cause it. More than likely poor sterilization practices with vials or stoppers.
Could also maybe be some miscalculations with the raw and BA/BB ratio but that would be pretty hard to fuck up, especially for someone with experience compounding.
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Originally Posted by
DFL
Sounds like it was probably some pyrogenic endotoxin contamination IMO.
Quite a few variables that cause it. More than likely poor sterilization practices with vials or stoppers.
Hmm, just learned something new. Thanks brotha.
I figured it was that or the recipe was off on something. Never knew there was a term for vial contamination.
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Loomer1
Hmm, just learned something new. Thanks brotha.
I figured it was that or the recipe was off on something. Never knew there was a term for vial contamination.
Yes sir. And it happens a lot. Most dont have much of an idea how to properly wash/sterilize vials and stoppers. I'll see if I can find the literature (used to have it saved but had to do a reinstall on my PC recently) but, I know using alcohol on vials and stoppers can actually contribute to leaving endotoxins behind. Until I find that one, here is another good article to check out which gives some insight on how to properly sterilize.
https://www.dwkltd.com/en/media/post...ing-components
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