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      What is the best oral to take with test/eq?

      Going to be doing a test/eq cycle and would like to hear what you think is the best oral to add.

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      Quote Originally Posted by vzzbks View Post
      Going to be doing a test/eq cycle and would like to hear what you think is the best oral to add.
      What kind of AI do you have?

      What do you have experience with?

      What are your goals?

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      might use in a bulk and cutting cycle. ran a dbol/test/Deca cycle before and have used var before as well. I’ll use nolva if needed

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      I know some steroids work synergistically together better than others. Just looking for thoughts on works well with eq.

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      Anadrol
      Dbol
      Tbol

      These can all be used for cutting and bulking its diet dependant all can be used either the end or beginning of a bulking/cutting phase

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      Quote Originally Posted by vzzbks View Post
      Going to be doing a test/eq cycle and would like to hear what you think is the best oral to add.
      I wont run dbol with eq since they're very close in chemical composition.
      Which is best depends on your goals.
      Adrol would be a killer add in. But so would sdrol or tbol.
      I'd need to get a bit more info on your stats and goals to give a more educated answer.

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      Quote Originally Posted by vzzbks View Post
      might use in a bulk and cutting cycle. ran a dbol/test/Deca cycle before and have used var before as well. I’ll use nolva if needed
      And my advice, never run nolva during a blast unless absolutely needed. Like only if you see signs of gyno. Nolva lowers igf which I'm sure you know is no bueno.
      Plus it wont lower estrogen, itll only block it in specific receptors like in your pecs.
      You probably wont even need an ai but to be safe aromasin or arimadex are what's best ran on cycle. Personally I never need an ai but if I did I'd run aromasin.

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      Any oral will do the job. Over time you will learn what suits your body the most. When trying to grow I prefer adrol or tbol. When cutting it's usually avar, winny or adrol. When I have either goal and simply want to look great it's avar and that's my fav oral. Adrol can be great for putting on size but it could destroy your appetite so if that's the case it's not good when trying to grow. If that's does happen then something like tbol (or dbol) could be great for you. Any of them will work but some will suit your exact goals and response best and the only way to find that out is through experimentation. It's like winny is great for both goals but especially good for cutting and when trying to look dry. However for some it can ruin their joints and they feel too dry and start hurting. For me 25-50mg is usually fine but if I try more it doesn't take long for my joints to start hurting so the dose is also a factor and not just the compound itself.

      Hormones can be very basic and people overcomplicate the fuck out of the drugs side of things but at the same time if your response varies it can be complex and it will take time to find out what suits you best. Although for most beginners (young people) pretty much anything can be great it's only when I started getting older I started having issues with side effects and running certain doses/compounds became impossible.

      Anyway I just wanted to go over a few things with you but you will find out for yourself. I would recommend trying different things. You can't go wrong with adding adrol with test and eq though. I know many advanced guys who have run many big cycles and their fav cycle to this day is test, eq and adrol.

      Incidentally for many EQ will help control estrogen. Well specifically estradiol (e2) which is the one you want to keep on the lower side. It may aromatase to estrone (e1) and that's why the ratio of test to eq can be important in a cycle. Everyone responds differently and the only way to know is to get blood work done showing test and estrogen levels. Certain compounds can mean no AI is needed and that's why I always design my cycles to ensure my secondary injectable helps control estrogen levels. The best 2 for this purpose are masteron and primobolan but eq can work as well. The most important thing is how you feel/look but you don't want your estrogen getting too high. I prefer to have it mid range or even in the high range especially when growing. Estrogen is good and needed for health, well being, libido and strength you just don't want too much of it. I get bad side effects from most AI's so prefer to use none especially in the offseason. Some of this will probably go over your head but just try and get blood work done in the middle or 3/4 into your cycle so you can see what the compounds are doing.
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      I’m 54 and on trt that I normally run at 100mg a week. recently started doing 200mg per week and just added in anadrol a couple of days ago. doing 25mg adrol a day just to see how it goes and will up to 50mg if I feel ok, although exact dosage is hard to say because the pills just shatter when I try to split them.
      If I like the adrol I will run it in the test/eq cycle.
      @elvia1023 I agree. I am going to be trying lots of new things to see what works and what doesn’t. Only tried dbol/test/deca before so everything else is new to me.

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      I like var for just about everything myself . Now proviron is a close second for me

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