Thread: Injection

Originally Posted by Loomer1

The type of gear doesn't matter. Everything can be pinned with a 27g×1/2. Draw with 22g or bigger and backfill a 27 slin pin. I use em for delts, tris, chest, upper outer glutes, quads, bis. If you're not very lean the only one I'd stay away from is glutes. But youd still be fine if you did. I pin 2 full slins ed so I use a lot of spots.

To help with pip heat and message helps, also working the muscle with pip helps. It's all about getting blood in there and thinning out the oil and Crystal's. Sometimes you'll just get pip no matter what. But it should never be debilitating unless you're pinning tren no ester, dhb, aqua test, aqua winny, ect.
But as for regular oil based gear you can basically pin any muscle with a slin. Just dont do calves or forearms lol

Oh there is the possibility of pinning in scar tissue or hitting a nerve. That will cause pip that lasts a little longer but no worries you'll be fine.
Trust me, youd know if it was an issue.
Hot, red, swelling, bad itching those are things to cause a little concern. But even then usually itll just go away and if not a little antibiotics will take care of it pretty quickly

Yeah I'm 6'2" 205 14% bf. So not too fluffy, but also not crazy shredded yet lol. Hell yeah bro I appreciate the long answer ����. I'm only on test right now so I'm a little bitch compared to most the guys on here lmao.

Originally Posted by NM Pitbull

I got a lot to say on this one but I’m at work now. I’ll give a full run down on PIP and how it can be misconceived to be ONLY caused by how you inject.
Stay tuned….


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Hell yeah man I'll be checking, I appreciate it. ����

Originally Posted by Mattjason99

Yeah I'm 6'2" 205 14% bf. So not too fluffy, but also not crazy shredded yet lol. Hell yeah bro I appreciate the long answer ����. I'm only on test right now so I'm a little bitch compared to most the guys on here lmao.

Yeah brotha you're lean enough to not have any issues.
And lol! Na man, I was the same way. Just over the years i tried more and more things and realized it's pretty hard to fuck up a pin. Just keep everything clean and you're good to go. Granted sometimes it's not your fault. It's the gear, Luckily you're pretty safe on here. DWBO is good about only letting good sponsors on here.

For micro dosing small slin pins are okay but if your going to pin just a couple.times a week . Id say use at least a 1" pin.

Just in my opinion

So Loomer hit on it a bit. These days a lot of people think PIP means they are doing something wrong. That’s not always the case. Back before UGL’s started getting super chemist on their brews PIP was almost like a quality check lol. I used to love getting some Russian powder test suspension in water and torturing myself. I literally loved the donkey kick, but I digress lol. Here are some things to consider even if you did the injection perfectly:

Strength of the mix - if you are loading up a heavy dose you will most likely feel it IE a 200mg vs a 400+mg

Type of product - like Loomer mentioned earlier, you can expect to feel no esters and other products way more then let us say a cyp 200 blended with care

Virgin muscle group - if you never pinned a muscle group in the past and decide it sounds like a good idea then prepare to have your body let you know. Think back to you first ever injection. Ah! The good ol’ days

Tight muscle groups - calf, forearm, and trap muscles can cause some people some extreme discomfort if you’re not used to pinning those areas

Stabbing a nerve - this hurts and is freaky. As you start a routine rotation you might be over an inch or so in one direct and pierce a never. It can make the area feel like fire and make your muscle contract and/or pulse.

Nicking or penetrating a blood vessel - even if you draw bubbles that doesn’t mean you fully avoided a vessel. Most who have done this know as soon as they plunge.

These are all items that could potentially cause minor to sever PIP even if you warm your oil, massage, slow insert and slow plunge.

The longer someone is in the game the less possibility there is for PIP solely based on the body’s adaptation to the process, but even the best of us have gotten a surprise PIP visit. Between you and me, I kinda like it as long as it’s not infection based lol.

Other PIP can be caused by:

Infection
Hard stabbing
Oversized needles
Using the same needle to administer the oil that you also used to draw with
Using the same exact spot every time which can cause sever scar tissue which keeps the product from absorbing
Pinning too close to connective tissue
Pinning sub q with a monster load

At the end of the day you should focus more on reducing PIP rather then focusing on the negative stigma people have built up about PIP.

NOT ALL PIP IS BAD , just some of it lol.


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