PLEASE REVIEW CYCLE - Feedback or adjustments

**Racelife** · 03-30-2013, 09:07 PM

Been off gear since my last show. Wanted to work on body composition and drop weight classes. I've been a heavy weight for awhile. Now training for light heavy class. I think I dropped too much muscle as I dieted down, trained only 3x a week (light hearted), been on a hellacious travel schedule for the past 16 months. So losing size kinda worked in my favor. Was a mental fuck trip for sure. I absolutely despise my decision because I feel like a newbie haha. Everyone at the office likes me better like this including my wife. Although, I made a decision and going to follow through with the intended plan! Bound and determined to collect trophies in the light heavy. If your asking why I dropped out of the heavy division...easy...the competition is fierce in Light Heavy and isn't that why we compete? To push ourselves harder. In heavy I was always a shoe in for top 5. And now I'm over 40 the masters was a lock. I will probably get my ass kicked - but the drive to get better under 198 lbs and reigniting my passion for the sport is going to be AWESOME!!!!

I'm 6'1 48 chest, 33" waist, weigh 223 lbs.
*My stage weight while competing in Heavy Class was 205-212 lbs. leaner than any heavy weight out there. Trophies are won and lost by proper conditioning and coming in full and dry as hell. Most heavy weights never diet down enough and look flat for the most part. At least the Mid-West NPC bros. big as hell but nothing like being shredded and vascular on stage. Makes up for size anyday.

OK, now keep in mind I've done a variation of this cycle before with great results. The key now is to remain lean (through diet and cardio) but don't want any or limited water weight while building lean mass. NOT LOOKING TO GAIN TOO MUCH OVERALL SIZE. I'm already to close to heavy/light heavy weight class border line. So i have to be careful not to mass up too much.

This is what I've come up with. Please give me your feedback bros.

CYCLE TO REVIEW:
Weeks 1-4
200mg Test Prop (EOD)

Weeks 5-12
250mg Test Sustenon (Mon & Thurs) @ 500mg/week

Weeks 1-10
150mg Tren Enanthate (Mon & Thurs) @ 300mg/week

Weeks 6-10
200mg EQ (Mon & Thurs) @ 400mg/week

PCT TREATMENT:
Clomid
Day 1 Post Cycle: Clomid @ 300mg
Days 2-14: Clomid @ 100mg ED
Days 15-28: Clomid @ 50mg ED

Nolva
Days 1-28: Nolva @ 25mg ED (1 tab)

HCG (5,000iu)
Weeks 10-12 while on cycle take 200iu EOD Mon-Fri.
Week 13-15 take 300iu daily Mon-Fri/Off weekends

**jdb3** · 03-30-2013, 10:33 PM

why clomid at 300mg? 100 would be fine the first couple days then drop too 50. 4 weeks of EQ will be a complete waste

run the sustanon throughout, you can use the prop in the beginning to "jump" it off.

I would pin sustanon every 3 or 4 days but the mon/thur will work

**jdb3** · 03-30-2013, 10:33 PM

run tren 1-12, EQ 1-16 and sustanon 1-16

**jdb3** · 03-31-2013, 12:30 AM

Ok got more time now, based on the compounds you listed , I will put the minimum effective dosages.

is this a contest prep cycle? if so, I can re-work it for you.

I have a 52 year old competitor, that will be on stage in 5 weeks. He is doing sustanon 250mg week, and tren E @ 500mg week.

OK, so you have EQ at 400mg....this will not be very effective, even at 16 weeks.

So, this is what I would do.

week 1-16 Sustanon at 250mg .7 CC MON/WEN/FRI FOR TOTAL OF 525mg WEEK (more stable with this way) OR YOU COULD DO 250mg MON/THUR
*PROP COULD BE USED FIRST TWO WEEKS FOR A "KICK" BUT IS NOT REALLY NEEDED WITH SUSTANON

week 1-12 Tren E 150mg MON/THUR (300 total)

week 1-16 EQ 600mg MON/THUR (400 will yeild little, and 4 weeks will be a waste of injecting, you wont see results until around week 6!)

Your PCT is too high on clomid in beginning.

WEEK 17-18 HCG

AFTER HCG NOLVADEX 20mg for 20 days AND CLOMID at 50mg for 28 days (you could take 100mg first two days...300 is totally unessaccary)

Again, if this is a contest cycle, I would work this totally different.

**bigdude** · 03-31-2013, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by jdb3

run tren 1-12, EQ 1-16 and sustanon 1-16

This....
I have never seen a good eq cycle that didn't run at least 16 weeks....

**jdb3** · 04-01-2013, 04:48 AM

fucked up with a typo....I said MON/WEN/THUR...ment to say MON/WEN/FRI .7 cc

If this is a contest prep..and you are using long esters, use a AI..not for sides but for water. maybe lower test....I would lower test to 250mg about 5 weeks out. and run tren all the way into contest for mean vascularity and decreased tissue loss while low carbing

**mizzou24** · 04-01-2013, 05:07 AM

Eq at 900 mg for 16 weeks would be good.. Watch yourself tho that shit will make u eat everything in site I'm not exaggerating bottomless pit

**BIG_NICE** · 04-01-2013, 06:29 AM

i'm running eq now at 600...just getting into week 4.... been considering 900 but ill prob stay at 6 and see what happens. I also extended mine to 16-20 weeks based on what the guys told me about it taking sooo long to really take affect.