Thread: The biggest Dbol dosage protocol ever used.

Originally Posted by MarvelNerd

Let’s be clear. You push the limits. These guys were peaking at 25 and probably dying off.

Originally Posted by MarvelNerd

We appreciate your knowledge. It is obvious you have tried a variety of things and have a wealth of knowledge.

Thanks Marvel that means a lot. I also learn a ton from you guys too. You alone have taught me a thing or two, and have helped me with training tips that really made a difference in my lifts.

Originally Posted by Loomer1

Shit, I thought I've pushed the boundaries but 900mg of dbol a week makes my top doses look like trt lol.
I love the maximum strength and maximum physiology mindset but damn!
I'm glad we have references like this to look back on and see what happened.

I feel the same way. The doping methods have evolved these days. They called it the duchess cocktail and it's all orals. They take it sublingual or buccal for absorption/clearance purposes. The majority of flagged drug tests came up for Tbol and Winstrol. They heavily took oral tren and another compound that seems to vary but mostly is primo.
There is definitely a new prodrug on the market we haven't heard of. At the last European weightlifting championships all of the lifters male and female had a level of muscle previously unseen in all the competitors. I think it will end up being a myostatin inhibitor of some kind. If not a actual drug then a manipulation of CRISPR gene editing technology. Gene editing is cutting edge and being developed as we speak. I invest in a company that's doing it actually lol.

Originally Posted by Synaptic

I feel the same way. The doping methods have evolved these days. They called it the duchess cocktail and it's all orals. They take it sublingual or buccal for absorption/clearance purposes. The majority of flagged drug tests came up for Tbol and Winstrol. They heavily took oral tren and another compound that seems to vary but mostly is primo.
There is definitely a new prodrug on the market we haven't heard of. At the last European weightlifting championships all of the lifters male and female had a level of muscle previously unseen in all the competitors. I think it will end up being a myostatin inhibitor of some kind. If not a actual drug then a manipulation of CRISPR gene editing technology. Gene editing is cutting edge and being developed as we speak. I invest in a company that's doing it actually lol.

That's pretty cool, I've ran all kinds of different compounds myself. A lot most never heard of.
Both ace 031 and gdf-8 are great myo inhibitors. Maybe that's something they're running. I used to love being my own lab rat lol.
I'm very into gene editing also.

Originally Posted by Synaptic

I feel the same way. The doping methods have evolved these days. They called it the duchess cocktail and it's all orals. They take it sublingual or buccal for absorption/clearance purposes. The majority of flagged drug tests came up for Tbol and Winstrol. They heavily took oral tren and another compound that seems to vary but mostly is primo.
There is definitely a new prodrug on the market we haven't heard of. At the last European weightlifting championships all of the lifters male and female had a level of muscle previously unseen in all the competitors. I think it will end up being a myostatin inhibitor of some kind. If not a actual drug then a manipulation of CRISPR gene editing technology. Gene editing is cutting edge and being developed as we speak. I invest in a company that's doing it actually lol.

Nigerian lifters are being studied for lack of myostatin inhibition. They just get bigger quicker. One of the reasons I stick with 8-12 week cycles is the amount studies showing your body severely inhibits muscle growth after week 7 on cycle. Unless you use a myostatin inhibitor blocking aid.

Or gh and insulin are great work arounds for myostatin inhibitors. Liver King actually went to Singapore for the CRISPR TECH to reduce myostatin inhibition.

I just don’t want to put a bunch of money towards it. I prefer to travel.

Originally Posted by MarvelNerd

Nigerian lifters are being studied for lack of myostatin inhibition. They just get bigger quicker. One of the reasons I stick with 8-12 week cycles is the amount studies showing your body severely inhibits muscle growth after week 7 on cycle. Unless you use a myostatin inhibitor blocking aid.

Or gh and insulin are great work arounds for myostatin inhibitors. Liver King actually went to Singapore for the CRISPR TECH to reduce myostatin inhibition.

I just don’t want to put a bunch of money towards it. I prefer to travel.

I heard that liver king did that too. There is always (-) epicatechin that can be used for myostatin inhibition. I was reading a couple studies that utilized it with good results. I'm not sure how I feel about it Not every study seemed to have the same findings of course. Maybe used alongside a good cycle a minor increase in the yield of muscle fiber production would be seen. That would be difficult to determine on my own though. We need like 100 people on BoP for this lol

One thing I do know is even a slight inhibition of myo can lead to great gains. Ace-031 got me out of a long plateau a while back. I was running that with increlex (igf) and holy shit was that a great combo. The only thing that scares me is inhibiting myo can weaken tendons. So I'll only run inhibitors occasionally and very short bursts.

Originally Posted by Loomer1

One thing I do know is even a slight inhibition of myo can lead to great gains. Ace-031 got me out of a long plateau a while back. I was running that with increlex (igf) and holy shit was that a great combo. The only thing that scares me is inhibiting myo can weaken tendons. So I'll only run inhibitors occasionally and very short bursts.

Yeah everyone here is right. I've learned a lot from you and everyone else here too. I've looked up the myo inhibitors you've mentioned and they look awesome.

Originally Posted by Loomer1

One thing I do know is even a slight inhibition of myo can lead to great gains. Ace-031 got me out of a long plateau a while back. I was running that with increlex (igf) and holy shit was that a great combo. The only thing that scares me is inhibiting myo can weaken tendons. So I'll only run inhibitors occasionally and very short bursts.

Could you team a myo and Anavar since Anavar does strengthen tendons?

Originally Posted by MarvelNerd

Could you team a myo and Anavar since Anavar does strengthen tendons?

I'm interested in the answer to this too. If I was able to run a myostatin inhibitor for 4-8 weeks I'd incorporate TB500 and low dose deca around 100-150mg/wk off the rip.

Originally Posted by Synaptic

I'm interested in the answer to this too. If I was able to run a myostatin inhibitor for 4-8 weeks I'd incorporate TB500 and low dose deca around 100-150mg/wk off the rip.

Also could help some. I'm trying to figure out how to explain this.
Blocking myo weakens tendons in a different way then hormones strengthen them. The tb might be a good thing to try to combat it by the healing properties. But I cant say if it would work well.
I guess running gear that strengthens tendons to prevent weakening the tendons from myo inhibition is kind of like using a drug to attack the symptoms and not the cause.