The biggest Dbol dosage protocol ever used.

**Synaptic** · 05-13-2023, 02:39 AM

What's up brothers? Today I'd like to share a story I came across recently. I'll set the scene.
It's the 1970s and the Bulgarian weightlifting team is getting smashed by the Soviet union. In countries other then America, particularly Europe Olympic weightlifting is celebrated by the citizens and government alike. Prestigious jobs post career, endorsements/commercials along with the full backing of the government. Housing,food, anabolics,doctors and everything else you can imagine is provided.
Ivan abadjiev has entered the chat. Ivan had some preposterous notions concerning the development of his athletes. Think you train Hard? Does HIT sound like too much?Welcome to the Bulgarian method. 3 to 6 sessions a day @2-3 hours each. What do they do this whole time ? Well 3 lifts and it's taken to maximum and then maintained at that intensity. Clean & jerk, Snatch and front squat. That's it. No assistance training. Maybe a back squat from time to time but that's it.
Now the part I'm in this section for. What was the anabolic protocol ? Test, Winny, tren maybe ? Nope. For each athlete 180+ dianabol pills (5mg ea) a week minimum. Prior to competition this dose could be doubled. The low end of this spectrum was 900mg of Dbol a week. There was no ai or even a thought concerning estrogen. The only other steroid taken was deca and this was low dose for the joint buffering. Back then prior to a drug test the bladder was emptied and subsequently filled with clean urine via catheterization. The next question you should be asking is 1. How did they do and 2. Are they alive ? Records of 260 kilo (572 lbs) in the clean and jerk stood the test of time for many many years. Squats of 300 kilos or 660 lbs for 185 lb lifters wasn't rare and the heavy weights rocked out with 340 kilos. These are high bar, ass to grass squats by the way

In closing. Side effects varied from brown urine,kidney/liver failure emotional instability and every muscle, bone,tendon and ligament being torn,ripped and atrophied. This isn't a endorsement of megadosing Dbol. It is a interesting case study we can look into where multiple individuals over at least 2 decades were administered more anabolics then any other single individual I've ever heard of and probably ever will. Anyway, something to think about.

**Devil1** · 05-13-2023, 10:06 AM

Interesting read. I’ve always thought it was interesting that “test” was actually not that common back then.

**Synaptic** · 05-13-2023, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Devil1

Interesting read. I’ve always thought it was interesting that “test” was actually not that common back then.

I think it was a mix of people just not understanding it's significance and there just not being anything other than Dbol around at the time. Countries like Bulgaria were extremely and were essentially the first "Dbol only gym bros"

**MarvelNerd** · 05-13-2023, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Synaptic

I think it was a mix of people just not understanding it's significance and there just not being anything other than Dbol around at the time. Countries like Bulgaria were extremely and were essentially the first "Dbol only gym bros"

Makes me wonder if this is where Westside Barbell picked up some of there regimen. It was said people quit Westside because they couldn’t handle the amount of gear pushed. It wasn’t if you were strong it was what you could handle.
Bulgarian methods included burning both sides of the candle. Maximum strength and maximum physiology. Probably some maximum mental games too.

**Loomer1** · 05-13-2023, 03:25 PM

Shit, I thought I've pushed the boundaries but 900mg of dbol a week makes my top doses look like trt lol.
I love the maximum strength and maximum physiology mindset but damn!
I'm glad we have references like this to look back on and see what happened.

**MarvelNerd** · 05-13-2023, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Loomer1

Shit, I thought I've pushed the boundaries but 900mg of dbol a week makes my top doses look like trt lol.
I love the maximum strength and maximum physiology mindset but damn!
I'm glad we have references like this to look back on and see what happened.

Let’s be clear. You push the limits. These guys were peaking at 25 and probably dying off.

**Synaptic** · 05-13-2023, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by MarvelNerd

Makes me wonder if this is where Westside Barbell picked up some of there regimen. It was said people quit Westside because they couldn’t handle the amount of gear pushed. It wasn’t if you were strong it was what you could handle.
Bulgarian methods included burning both sides of the candle. Maximum strength and maximum physiology. Probably some maximum mental games too.

There is a documentary uploaded to YouTube called unbelievable Bulgarians that's filmed during this era. What you will see is abject misery with unbelievable weights. People going long into the night at the 8th fail in a row at @105% and then somehow pulling through. Their tenacity was completely iron. Can you imagine being at you 6th session of the day for the 4th day that week and still being determined to get that 5% more for a PR? It's crazy but I respect it. A lot of entities took a couple pages out of the Bulgarian book for lifting and anabolics.

**Synaptic** · 05-13-2023, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by MarvelNerd

Let’s be clear. You push the limits. These guys were peaking at 25 and probably dying off.

The age of retirement was usually around 28-34 for most of the lifters. It's about the same age for most Olympic athletes these days unless you are a literal god like lu xiajun the 77kilo lifter who competed until this year at 38. He only stopped bc he got caught doping lol. One of the Bulgarian lifters interviewed recently exposed the doping protocols and he was in his 50s. Some of them definitely died way too young though.

**Synaptic** · 05-13-2023, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Loomer1

Shit, I thought I've pushed the boundaries but 900mg of dbol a week makes my top doses look like trt lol.
I love the maximum strength and maximum physiology mindset but damn!
I'm glad we have references like this to look back on and see what happened.

I feel the same way. The doping methods have evolved these days. They called it the duchess cocktail and it's all orals. They take it sublingual or buccal for absorption/clearance purposes. The majority of flagged drug tests came up for Tbol and Winstrol. They heavily took oral tren and another compound that seems to vary but mostly is primo.
There is definitely a new prodrug on the market we haven't heard of. At the last European weightlifting championships all of the lifters male and female had a level of muscle previously unseen in all the competitors. I think it will end up being a myostatin inhibitor of some kind. If not a actual drug then a manipulation of CRISPR gene editing technology. Gene editing is cutting edge and being developed as we speak. I invest in a company that's doing it actually lol.

**Loomer1** · 05-13-2023, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Synaptic

I feel the same way. The doping methods have evolved these days. They called it the duchess cocktail and it's all orals. They take it sublingual or buccal for absorption/clearance purposes. The majority of flagged drug tests came up for Tbol and Winstrol. They heavily took oral tren and another compound that seems to vary but mostly is primo.
There is definitely a new prodrug on the market we haven't heard of. At the last European weightlifting championships all of the lifters male and female had a level of muscle previously unseen in all the competitors. I think it will end up being a myostatin inhibitor of some kind. If not a actual drug then a manipulation of CRISPR gene editing technology. Gene editing is cutting edge and being developed as we speak. I invest in a company that's doing it actually lol.

That's pretty cool, I've ran all kinds of different compounds myself. A lot most never heard of.
Both ace 031 and gdf-8 are great myo inhibitors. Maybe that's something they're running. I used to love being my own lab rat lol.
I'm very into gene editing also.