Having low testosterone first cycle advice.

[Thompsoncustom]

Well guys just wanted your thoughts on how high I should take my total test level. I know most people run 500mg test e to get there levels in the 3000ng/dl range but that's for people with normal test levels say around 1000ng/dl natural test.

Well here's the rub my natural test is 400ng/dl at the best I've had it tested a couple times now and it seems to range 375ng/dl to 400ng/dl so pretty consistent but low. Dr didn't want to start me on trt only being 32 and I haven't decided yet either as I'm type 1 diabetic and I ready pin a 30 gauge needle 6ish times a day so I'm not sure I want to all more pinning.

So as far as my first cycle 500mg of test e would put my levels 7.5times higher than my normal level instead of the roughly 3 times higher it puts a normal persons levels. If I triple my levels it just put me at the top of the normal level range at 1200ng/dl. While 1200ng/dl would do nothing for most people it would be the same as a 500mg test e cycle for a normal person as far as 3x there natural levels or should I still take my tests up to 3000ng/dl which would be closer to 7.5x for me.

[Big Cuz]

1200 is the cut off range for most labs. 400 is kinda low to be 32 but 500 mgs of test-e isn't gonna put you at normal numbers you'll be well over 1200 at that dose. If your looking for trt I'd use test-c or test deca. If your trying to do a test only cycle 500mgs is a good number but I'd pin it every 5th day if using test-e just my 2 cents

[Thompsoncustom]

Ya I know that 500mg would put me somewhere around 3000ng/dl but if the goal of a first cycle is to just triple your natural test levels then id be aim for more of a trt dose of 1200ng/dl.

[Big Cuz]

Idk how much you'd gain off 1200 or how much you'd have to inject. I'd recommend 500 mgs of test every 5th day with some nolvadex at 25 mgs per day. Nolvadex let's estrogen run free in your body without attaching to anything so gyno wouldn't be a problem. Some people are sensitive to estrogen even from test so it would be wise to run an anti-estrogen with it.

[Liftpower23]

Ya I know that 500mg would put me somewhere around 3000ng/dl but if the goal of a first cycle is to just triple your natural test levels then id be aim for more of a trt dose of 1200ng/dl.

My natty test levels were 366... Doc put me on 200mg Test Cyp. My follow up 4 weeks later had me at 1050, 5 days after pinning. From all the blood tests i've personally seen performed, 150-250mg of properly dosed test should put you in this range.

Also, someone's natty levels doesn't determine how high their level will go with a given dose... Example, if your levels are 1,000 naturally and you pin 200mg of test your natural production shuts down and you're left with what you're pinning. So someone might go from 1,000 to only 1,100 on 200mg.

[IRISHOAK]

I would start by front loading 400-500mg. Then 100mg test enth e4d OR 200mg/wk.
That will get you up around "normal" pretty fast and after 5-6 weeks you should be somewhere in the 1200-1500 range. Then just cruise on that.
Ive been "on" 24/7/365 since my late 30s, Im approaching 50. If your test is that low at 32, you might as well take the plunge. No point in wasting good years walking around with low test. Even what they consider "normal" now is only half the test levels men had on average in the 1950s.
Plenty of guys here can tell you how diff & better life is when your hormones are optimized.

[Big Cuz]

I would start by front loading 400-500mg. Then 100mg test enth e4d OR 200mg/wk.
That will get you up around "normal" pretty fast and after 5-6 weeks you should be somewhere in the 1200-1500 range. Then just cruise on that.
Ive been "on" 24/7/365 since my late 30s, Im approaching 50. If your test is that low at 32, you might as well take the plunge. No point in wasting good years walking around with low test. Even what they consider "normal" now is only half the test levels men had on average in the 1950s.
Plenty of guys here can tell you how diff & better life is when your hormones are optimized.

Agree...just stay on. I been on test 24/7 for years myself.

[Riggs]

In this regard your baseline #'s are only relavent when determining how you naturally down regulate endogenous Testosterone. Once exogenous Testosterone is introduced your natural Testosterone production shuts down & blood plasma levels are dependent on the Testosterone your injecting.

If your at 400 Total Test and boost that to 1200 you absolutely can make gains at that point.

The Total T #'s that best fit your goals can be determined thru continued bloodwork.

[Thompsoncustom]

Thanks for all the advice guys. Sounds like I need to give trt a try and see how I fell.