EQ as an AI and how to prevent crashing my E2

**Likelinus** · 12-06-2023, 04:59 PM

I’m going to run Test E 300 mg, with EQ 500-600 mg per week. The test dose will remain at 300 mg for 20 weeks then return to 150 as I’m on TRT, the EQ will run for 20 weeks. I’ve ran similar cycles before many times and always towards the end of the cycle I would get low estrogen sides. The last time I ran something similar I got bloodwork and my E2 was undetectable. My question is with EQ acting as an AI and suppressing estradiol what options would you look at to prevent from bottoming out my E2. I was thinking about maybe keeping Dbol on hand and using a low dose as a pre workout a few days a week. I’m curious on your thoughts and what possible other options you might have.

**samgraves82** · 12-06-2023, 05:09 PM

Something isn't adding up here. EQ has been shown to have ai effects but no where near what it explaining here. We're you using an AI at all? Possible faulty test? I can see it being low but not undetectable

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**Loomer1** · 12-06-2023, 05:39 PM

I agree, somethings off here. Eq shouldn't drop your e2. Also dbol's chemical structure is very similar to eq so if for some weird reason eq acts that way in your body, dbol could very likely do the same thing. That's such a weird situation, I've never heard of anything like that. What's your blood look like on just test? I guess dbol might work cause its know to raise e2. Personally I'd just not run the eq and maybe deca instead. I'm going to look more into this and see what I can figure out for you.

**Likelinus** · 12-06-2023, 05:45 PM

The test was pharma grade through a doctor. I was using Anastrozole but only .5 every 4 days so not enough to bottom my E2 out. Maybe just running EQ so long the effects were accumulative I’m not sure.

**samgraves82** · 12-06-2023, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Likelinus

The test was pharma grade through a doctor. I was using Anastrozole but only .5 every 4 days so not enough to bottom my E2 out. Maybe just running EQ so long the effects were accumulative Iâ€™m not sure.

No sir!!! .5mg basically 2x week is more than enough to crash your e2, trust me I know. There's your problem not the EQ. Drop the air all together.

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**ChefTren** · 12-06-2023, 10:42 PM

Maybe you just aren’t a high converter of e2? I can run up to 600 test a week, 200 mast e and my e2 hovers around 35 with no ai at all

**Loomer1** · 12-07-2023, 03:24 PM

Most likely the ai helped crash your e2. I guess it's not so uncommon for eq to crash it as well. I've done a good amount of research on this. But now I have a question. So last time this happened were you running an ai as well?

But let's say you wernt, because I want to let you know what I've found out. Eq can definitely crash your e2. I personally didn't know that so thank you for this post. You possibly can cure the issue with dbol. But I don't recommend it. The extreme low to extreme high dbol can give you in e2 fluctuations when its crashed can cause a host of other high e2 sides.
This is the fix. For one you're running test way too low on an eq cycle. So starting the blast with say 500-750mg test would be a much better idea. But now that you are where you are. Grab some test prop and pin at least 100mg eod. But also keep the trt test in there as well. Once you start to level out add in more test e and pin less test prop. After a week or so of that you can take out the prop and keep running your test e at 500-750mg a week.

What sucks now is you have to drop the ai and go get bloods. I really thought I had the fix for ya until I saw you're running a ai. If your e2 is still low after dropping it then follow that protocol. But hopefully just dropping the ai will fix it.

**Likelinus** · 12-07-2023, 03:34 PM

Thanks for the advice and your effort looking into it man. I have some prop on hand in the stash I’ll let you know how it goes. It makes sense about the dbol not being the best course of action I didn’t think about the huge fluctuations.