Thread: Test deca npp cycle

I’m a nandrolone guy myself! I can run it at almost the same as my test but I keep the test slightly higher. If I’m running higher doses I might run 750/500 test/deca, if I’m cruising I’ll usually go 1:2 ratio.. maybe 125 deca and 250 cyp.. you know? But I recently ran npp and test prop at a 1:1 ratio with no issues.

Originally Posted by Sourpower

I just did this. It’s great. I’m running 600 test, 500 deca, and kickstarted with 100mg of npp eod for 4 weeks. I actually miss the NPP and might add it in again later.


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yeah, I feel you.. I’ve always ran deca, ran a solid cycle recently with npp and I fkn loved it.

Originally Posted by unclemoney

I'm going to be the bubble buster here and say that no matter the ester the hormone itself goes to work right away and circulates around in your bloodstream, if you want to bypass the buildup just frontload.

A lot of people talk about a "kick in" phase, but truly it goes to work from injection number 1. I get that as things accumulate over time it becomes more pronounced but I bet there's a lot more happening in that first month than you might be aware of, it's just our old antiquated bro science that has been ingrained which has us still thinking otherwise.

But I'm no dictator, feel free to do so with npp as well especially since you already have it on hand!

I don’t know bro.. let’s use testosterone for example. TNE @ 100mg is processed by the body completely within a couple hours, maybe 6 hours tops. When an ester is attached it slows the breakdown of the molecule, right? So 100mg of test ace would take a couple days, prop a day or two longer, cyp 10-12 days and so on. But, I can see your point with front loading, 500mg of deca is gonna free up some nandrolone right away but will break down slower. I personally do not like front loading, I get lethargic.

All bro science is right though.. we are just a bunch of gym rats going off things we read on forums that other gym rats have parroted for years, decades even.

this is always an interesting topic!!

Originally Posted by Devil1

I don’t know bro.. let’s use testosterone for example. TNE @ 100mg is processed by the body completely within a couple hours, maybe 6 hours tops. When an ester is attached it slows the breakdown of the molecule, right? So 100mg of test ace would take a couple days, prop a day or two longer, cyp 10-12 days and so on. But, I can see your point with front loading, 500mg of deca is gonna free up some nandrolone right away but will break down slower. I personally do not like front loading, I get lethargic.

All bro science is right though.. we are just a bunch of gym rats going off things we read on forums that other gym rats have parroted for years, decades even.

this is always an interesting topic!!

Oh most definitely 100%, you get the full hammer with shorter esters of what you're putting in right off the get go! I'm a fan of the "steroid calculator" that plots a graph for your compound and injection frequency showing you approximated circulating mg... I just like to highlight back to people that on a math basis you can frontload and reach peak saturation just by doing one week of double doses, but I agree with you I don't like it either it's way too much... but I just like to point out that just because it's a longer ester that people should forget about the "takes 4-6 weeks to kick in", that might be the amount of time it took for them to see noticeable mirror results/changes or for things to have really taken off but I keep wanting to bring people back to the fact that it's going to work right away, but you're def right it's not comparable to a shorter ester by any means!

I think too many people get this idea that it just sits back accumulating and waiting for some "kick in" point when in reality it's going to work right away. But... I get it, that's the human point for many where they really start to feel it shine! My sensitive ass notices the difference right away lmao.

Originally Posted by Dwnsouth23$

what do you see result wise when you add the mast? More size or just strength and hardness?

Hardness is what I get from it.. I look more vascular and tighter. Honestly wasn’t a “awesome” addition to my last cycle but I did notice some hardness. It definitely kept the water retention down but it could have dried my joints out a little. I don’t have a lot of experience with it but I would definitely add it to bigger cycles.