Thread: Best cycle for gaining weight in general

Originally Posted by unclemoney

I'm going to come flat out and say it.... Calorie surplus!

Now, if you can get the increase of food down you can gain all the weight you ever want, don't even need hormones for that!

However... being that you'd like to guide the caloric surplus to give some lean tissue gains vs just bloating up and fatness...

You really don't need all that much, I'd just do your basic low dose test/deca and really that's about it.... maybe throw in some mk677 or ghrh 2 or 6 for the increased hunger.... and slather on those pounds!

Low dosages with time and higher caloric intake = increased body mass

The steroids help instruct the body to be more selective with your food intake and utilize the calories towards muscle vs just fat storage.... but ultimately the gain as in terms of on the scale is all down to your food intake.

Anything that helps you hold more water into the muscle will help momentarily increase that amount, but keep in mind... that's all dosage dependent and as soon as you come off it disappears... So whether you're talking creatine or even dbol, that is only lived for as long as you're on it.... What can you exist upon for the longer term? That's why I advocate for lower dosages of test and perchance deca and just eating more food.

Remember, no amount of steroids are going to magically equate to size without food intake!

I agree and disagree with this. Agree 100% it comes down to diet and eating a lot. But to say after coming off a compound you lose it is incorrect to me. True u will lose if you don’t push harder after the cycle. I’ve gained a lot of mass from ment and didn’t lose a pound. But main thing is why waste time with cycle if your not gaining with just food alone.

Originally Posted by unclemoney

I'm going to come flat out and say it.... Calorie surplus!

Now, if you can get the increase of food down you can gain all the weight you ever want, don't even need hormones for that!

However... being that you'd like to guide the caloric surplus to give some lean tissue gains vs just bloating up and fatness...

You really don't need all that much, I'd just do your basic low dose test/deca and really that's about it.... maybe throw in some mk677 or ghrh 2 or 6 for the increased hunger.... and slather on those pounds!

Low dosages with time and higher caloric intake = increased body mass

The steroids help instruct the body to be more selective with your food intake and utilize the calories towards muscle vs just fat storage.... but ultimately the gain as in terms of on the scale is all down to your food intake.

Anything that helps you hold more water into the muscle will help momentarily increase that amount, but keep in mind... that's all dosage dependent and as soon as you come off it disappears... So whether you're talking creatine or even dbol, that is only lived for as long as you're on it.... What can you exist upon for the longer term? That's why I advocate for lower dosages of test and perchance deca and just eating more food.

Remember, no amount of steroids are going to magically equate to size without food intake!

So are you saying water weight is lost after a cycle or the actual gains disappear after?

Originally Posted by Loomer1

So are you saying water weight is lost after a cycle or the actual gains disappear after?

I've been able to accrue strength with time.... but the immediate size gains and the immediate strength is always also lost post coming off... especially noticeable on anything that bloats you up.

It's hard to differentiate between what is actual gains and what is water weight, because water in the muscles is fullness and gains even if temporary... But somehow on the same token it's the multiple going through things that gets you further along...

I've had a few times over the years where I really felt "deflated" just going back to true trt only but the moment I bump it up I'm bigger than I've ever been... But in those periods of deflation the worst for me was the covid shutdowns when gyms were closed and I couldn't lift heavy...

Now I'm at my present biggest on the least I've ever been on, I know I could add in a few more things and bloat up a bit more and push things further but without continuing to keep those things in it seems that such only offers temporary increase and disappears when the compound disappears... Which begs to question, yeah the scale goes up and appearance of size goes up and strength goes up, but as soon as you come off those short term things gained seem to fizzle out and you're back where you were beforehand... That's why I tend to believe what we can accumulate through eating more that doesn't just necessarily go to the gut is what truly can stick around, and those gains in size are going to accumulate at a much more slower rate and won't be some instant ballooning.