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How to determine if a source is a good source!
Due to recent events and the high amount of pop up home brew sources we see everywhere today I am writing some helpful tips for those who need it and a reminder for those who already know but may have forgotten how to identify a quality source
All quality sources should WANT recent labs posted before they sell anything. This small step adds to their credibility, to not do so is a major red flag in my book and my first sign to stay clear of them, period. All sources should have to pay their dues just like any other business does, this validates their commitment to us the customer and it is one excellent way they become VESTED in their own venture enough to insure the desire to provide the best quality they can to us their potential customers. There should be no exceptions, It's the cost of doing business, it doesn't guarantee anything but it should build trust over time...
All too often, we the users make an uninformed decision to purchase based on ridiculous criteria "Cheap Prices" and my favorite "he seems like a good guy" . This is not good information to base a purchase on, Fuck THAT! This is not a valid reason to spend your hard earned cash, as way too many of you just realized. Some of us will spend more time picking out a movie to watch this weekend than we will choosing your new steroid dealer, WTF?... that is insane! Once you find a quality source, T/A time and communication is less important. Quality and safety are important.
Here are a few reasonable and rational thoughts to ponder BEFORE you consider a source legitimate.
1. Do they have Multiple recent labs posted that verify their legitimacy?
2. Are there actual previous users giving personal reviews of gear with pictures for you to see?
3. Do they have A STRONG HISTORY? here or elsewhere?
4. If not, has the source GIVEN away gear to a respected VET from this board in return for a log and labs to verify their quality? If the answer is no, ask yourself why.
5. Do they have ANY chemistry experience? This doesn't include getting a cool recipe from the web last month.
6. Do they have a sterile facility?
7. Are they brewing steroids in the exact same place they make their meals?
There are more, but we all get the point...
Here are some reviews you should NOT CONSIDER as HELPFUL IN PICKING A SOURCE, but you should consider them laughable and irrelevant.
1. TA was excellent; xyz is GTG!
2. Communication was stellar; xyz is GTG!
3. xyz seems like a good dude, I'll give xyz a try!
4. CHEAP PRICES CHEAP PRICES CHEAP PRICES
5. I have history, it's just not on this board. lol, wtf does that mean... trust is earned, not given freely. That means it cost $$$ something for the source to be a receiver of your trust.
6. I'm up 5lbs in a week, xyz is GTG. we don't count water weight as LBM, why should a source get to?
7. Using a source for any one of these reasons makes it very attractive for scammers, thieves and unskilled chemists to continue in "the game"
If this seems harsh, it's because it is, the stricter we are with them, the better quality we will receive from them.
This is a great board and I have met some cool people here. I truly hope this helps anyone who takes the time to read this
Last edited by HFO3; 05-03-2013 at 02:00 AM.
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Good post. This guy brings some good stuff to the table. repped him myself on another post as well.
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Bloodwork is what I always look for, although it can really only be used for test and some ancillaries like AI's and caber.
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After asking White Rhino for an assay report, and him being unable to provide one, I will never again buy dust without one. Its not hard to provide one if you are close to the manufacturer and the customer deserves that much if they are donating over 1000$. So, for people that dabble in things like that, an assay report is very useful. After requesting an assay, i seen one provider I will not name was carrying products produced in 2008, when it was 2012. It does degrade!! The original assay is very important if you want a quality product.
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Originally Posted by
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After asking White Rhino for an assay report, and him being unable to provide one, I will never again buy dust without one. Its not hard to provide one if you are close to the manufacturer and the customer deserves that much if they are donating over 1000$. So, for people that dabble in things like that, an assay report is very useful. After requesting an assay, i seen one provider I will not name was carrying products produced in 2008, when it was 2012. It does degrade!! The original assay is very important if you want a quality product.
If the assay is accurate, its ALL you need, no need for blood work as that would be a less accurate measure of purity. Problem is finding a source willing to provide one, and an accurate one. Keep track of assay report numbers and make sure all info matches up.
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There is no way to really find out 4,5, or 6. Maybe 4 if you know the right questions to ask. However, your right. It would be nice to know those things...
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This is awesome info here!!! BUMP
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