Andro and EQ

[cmeliftheavy]

Just finished running a basic low volume cycle -
Test P 300 - 14 week
Deca 250- 10 week

Great muscle gains and size increase, as well as strength has been noticeable. Set new PB with DLs at 495


In researching the next cycle I have decided to partake in an Andro and EQ cycle, several thoughts of running Winstrol with this cycle but I am in debate (still searching for injectable win).

Curious to see who here has ran a cycle like this and how the cycle has been stacked.

Andro is in a pill formate
EQ is injectable options -- inject once a week in same area or should this be a sight enhancement region ie biceps/tricept/quad/pec/ect

Would like to see how others have run a cycle like this at.

Basic body schematics-
5"8
232 weight
30% body fat
Expectation of cycle to gain muscle mass and increase stregnth

[Gopro]

Heard of people running oral Andro, but i wouldn't. Its such a low conversion rate i don't think it is cost effective. Why not just buy Test and pin that? Better results and more hormone!!! If you want the most info on PH's i would shoot R92 a PM. He has ran a couple cycle of them and probably has ran the Andro series you are talking of.

[jdb3]

andro the prohormone? why, site enhancement with EQ? .......no, not gonna do anything. 30% bf? and you want to increase mass?

[cmeliftheavy]

30% body fat was the last time I had it checked. Eating has cleaned up allot since the last time I had it checked.
JDB3 - the injection location was a question, I have read a few post where peeps are referring to site enhancement.

[cmeliftheavy]

Thanxs Gopro I will send R92 a pm, I have the gear in hand and prepared to setup the next cycle up. I was very curious to see how others are running this and the results they are getting from this type of cycle..

[cmeliftheavy]

Found this on another site,

The Equipoise cycle usually takes 4-6 weeks before the steroid takes effect. Which is why some bodybuilders who want to experience weight gain in a short span of time take other anabolics like Dianabol. When you use Dianabol you will begin to notice or feel the effects in a week’s time. However with Equipoise the effects start kicking in around the 6th week of the cycle. Equipoise cycle done for 12 weeks will be optimal. The recommended dosage in an Equipoise cycle is 200-400mg per week. Anything beyond that can cause potential liver damage. Equipoise is rarely used as a stand alone steroid. It is used with other anabolic steroids such as Dianabol or Testosterone. here is how you should go about your first Equipoise cycle: use testosterone as your base so it will become a Testosterone Equipoise cycle. Use Testosterone Enanthate for 10-12 weeks would be a good base for Equipoise. Stack them together for optimum results. To prevent a possible crash that could happen because of the depressive effect of the steroid to the endogenous testosterone, end your Equipoise cycle with a post cycle therapy. Use HCG and Clomid as post cycle therapy steroids. Wait for 3 weeks before you begin PCT for your Equipoise Cycle.

Make sure you are eating a well balanced diet and sticking to a proper training regimen before you even start with any kind of steroid. Have a goal with your Equipoise cycle to avoid overdose. Users who don’t have a goal set in mind are often prone to abuse the substance. Do not be blind when you start your cycles be well informed so that you avoid potentially hazardous side effects to your body.

Sample Equipoise Cycle:

Week Testosterone Equipoise
1 500mgs/week 400mgs/week
2 500mgs/week 400mgs/week
3 500mgs/week 400mgs/week
4 500mgs/week 400mgs/week
5 500mgs/week 400mgs/week
6 500mgs/week 400mgs/week
7 500mgs/week 400mgs/week
8 500mgs/week 400mgs/week
9 500mgs/week 400mgs/week
10 500mgs/week 400mgs/week

[sofargone561]

EQ needs to be ran much longer then 10 weeks brother. you probably wont even notice the EQ till around week 10

[texson]

Heard of people running oral Andro, but i wouldn't. Its such a low conversion rate i don't think it is cost effective

the conversion rate for andro is 11%, but its really a none issue since andro is 99% as anabolic as testosterone anyway. conversion really doesn't matter.

unless there is someone else using that name, I think you've been around awhile. seems like I remember that name from way back and on a few boards.

anyway, given your goals, i'd say that cycle is all wrong. but, I don't know your cycle history or particulars.

[cmeliftheavy]

Hey Tex, correct I have been at this for some time. I have never run Andro and was looking for some post on peoples experience on how they stacked Andro and EQ together. I have read that EQ will take roughly 6 weeks to take effect.
I am used to stacking EQ with Test e but I am looking at running Andro with this cycle, figured it would be good for conversation. Might just return to the familiar cycle and continue the research on stacking with Andro.

[texson]

Thought you looked familar, you big lug. you've gotten uglier over the years, though.

Anyway, you didn't say what form or andro - androstenedione, androstenediol??

I've used it exstensively in the past....late 90's. orals and transdermals. the stuff is great. I liked it. but I can't say it is any better or worse than plain test. its about the same from an anabolic/androgenic point of view.

eq is a long ass ester. it takes about 5 weeks for me, but I love the stuff dearly. one of my favorites - mainly for the appetite stimulation. the thing about eq is, it is not a rapid mass builder - not in itself, as a steroid, at least. its a little on the mild side, which is why side effects are very mild with it. where it shines as a mass builder is in the appetite stimulation. you wanna eat anything that isn't nailed down. it's like you can't eat enough. and a protein shake? tastes like mother's milk.

the two should go together fairly well but its a kind of novelty stack. one of those for fun things, i guess.

but in answer to your question, yeah...andro works fine. it is the brain child of that genius patrick arnold.