I'm sure this has been discussed before but I was wondering what people's opinions were and why? I've seen some good arguements for both but am still undecided. And yes, I've run tren before. Thanks everyone.
I'm sure this has been discussed before but I was wondering what people's opinions were and why? I've seen some good arguements for both but am still undecided. And yes, I've run tren before. Thanks everyone.
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It depend on what your goals are bro. Most people run high tren low test on a cut and low tren high test on a bulk
I'm waffling on which way I want to go. It will be tren e and either test c or andropen.
It's really individual and what works best for you. I personally like higher test and Tren at about 400 EW
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Thanks. I've run tren ace with test p eod on a ten weeker before so I'm trying to figure out how I want to do this. I've read pros to each but am just unsure. I was thinking 450mgs a week andropen and 400mgs a week tren e split into two pins.
The thought process behind the low test and higher Tren is that you do not have to deal with the elevated estrogen from excess test aromatizing. You let the Tren do the work. I feel much better on 500-750 mg test EW and 400 Tren
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Gotcha. Thanks again kubes. I guess I'll have to experiment a bit to see what works best for me.
I've run it both ways and to me I look much harder running higher tren a over test e rather than the opposite. This next 8 week cycle after my 8 week cruise at 125mg test e e4d, I'll be starting the first pin off with 500mg of test e(2cc's) and 160mg of tren a (1.6cc's) for a pre-load. Then for the remainder of the 8 weeks, test e will be pinned e4d at 250mg (1cc) and tren a will be pinned ed at 80mg (.8cc). this will give me a ratio of ~450mg test e and 560mg tren a per week. First time I'll be trying this but supposedly pre-loading the first day will get the levels to hold better and higher throughout the cycle. Something to think about. I'm hoping it'll give me a good bump this next run.
Anyone have any complaints or knowledge in doing it this way; pre-loading?
Last edited by spoolin; 11-19-2014 at 12:06 AM.
5'8" 195 4.5% bf
Hmm interesting spoolin. I guess I need to research on that. When you ran ow test with high tren, what was your sweet spot?
I havent really found a sweet spot yet but my last two cycles were done this way. I just know that high test and lower tren seems to only make you hold more water and weigh a few pounds more. My strength between the two is very comparable but the way i look on lower test is much more defined and hard; not as much water to make you look as puffy basically. I ran those cycles at 125mg test e e4d and 120mg tren a eod. Which would yield a ratio of ~225 test/420 tren a week. The theory is that tren battles the test for your receptors and always comes out on top or winning. So, there isnt really a need to run test much higher than what your body naturally needs to function properly and let the tren do is job and have those receptors. I was tested pre-cycle and my natural test runs 650-750, so i experimented and hit it right on the nose with my first trial run on low test. 125mg of test got me right at 650 and this is also where i stay during my cruise.
Last edited by spoolin; 11-19-2014 at 03:40 PM.
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