I agree gentelmen...Prop, mast, tren, TNE...cruise on test every 6-8 weeks for 2-3 weeks...IM 273# Long esters take my BW as high as 290#...so the PROP and small cruise of test E keeps me feeling tighter and leaner...SO being 44yo, Longer esters, water retention, and Bpressure, I dont get the sides with prop...LOVE it...plus its smooth, inject into Biceps, chest... delts, shit even traps once or twice...