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Originally Posted by
Cobra Strike
Lmao love the rant brother!!!
Tren does make my cardio worse...i can still do it but im huffin and puffin. Atleast during my work outs i can catch my breath before hanmering the next set.
dude wish I could try the stuff lol
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Originally Posted by
Tattz
.5 ED for me with Tren A. I see more results then if I do 100mg EOD
Im currently doing this as well. Just waiting for that tren train to hit hopefully will be soon im 6 days in
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At what doses does aggression become a factor. Tren sounds like the perfect drug, but I'm not trying to catch a charge lol
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Originally Posted by
panda72
At what doses does aggression become a factor. Tren sounds like the perfect drug, but I'm not trying to catch a charge lol
It seems everyone responds differently to the stuff. I'm currently on my first run and capped it at 400mg/week. I'm experiencing very little sides besides the occasional trensomnia. Very happy with the results too.
Being wary of the sides, like you, I chose to run ace at a low dose and slowly work my way up. When I was at 60mg ace/day I did notice that my aggression was up a tad, but only when driving. At home I would get annoyed by stupid things, but not enough to where I was being an asshole to my spouse. I swapped over to Enanthate at 400/week (I've used two different sponsors at the same dose for Tren E now) and that aggression and irritability has vanished.
Oh, and for informations sake I'm running 600/wk Sust and 50mg/day Proviron. A lot of the experienced Tren guys all seem to agree that Proviron really helps cool the Tren sides.
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Originally Posted by
Somethingclever
It seems everyone responds differently to the stuff. I'm currently on my first run and capped it at 400mg/week. I'm experiencing very little sides besides the occasional trensomnia. Very happy with the results too.
Being wary of the sides, like you, I chose to run ace at a low dose and slowly work my way up. When I was at 60mg ace/day I did notice that my aggression was up a tad, but only when driving. At home I would get annoyed by stupid things, but not enough to where I was being an asshole to my spouse. I swapped over to Enanthate at 400/week (I've used two different sponsors at the same dose for Tren E now) and that aggression and irritability has vanished.
Oh, and for informations sake I'm running 600/wk Sust and 50mg/day Proviron. A lot of the experienced Tren guys all seem to agree that Proviron really helps cool the Tren sides.
I wonder if it is because the acetate dumps the hormone so quickly that is causes a huge spike. Thanks for the info, clever.
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Originally Posted by
panda72
I wonder if it is because the acetate dumps the hormone so quickly that is causes a huge spike. Thanks for the info, clever.
One thing that is commonly mentioned is that due to the different esters, you're getting a different amount of hormone with the same dose. So with ace you're getting a little more Tren than with E. At least that's my understanding. There are guys here that can explain it much better than me.
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tren is too strong cannot use it in your frst cycle
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How low can you run tren while still making gains, but keeping sides at a min
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Originally Posted by
Tbrotherx
How low can you run tren while still making gains, but keeping sides at a min
General consensus seems to be that everyone is different. I'm at 400mg/wk Tren E and have very little sides. Occasional trensomnia, but that's it besides cardio possibly being a bit harder to get through and my appetite falling off a bit.
When I first made the decision to start Tren, I used ACE so when the sides became apparent I could back it off quickly and not be stuck with them for a couple weeks. Started at 30 mg/day and increased 10mg after 1.5-2 weeks to try to find a happy balance. At 490/week of ACE (administered 70 everyday) I started soaking the sheets with night sweats, bad insomnia every night, and I was definitely more irritable. Amazing the difference 90mg makes. (Ran three different sources so far)
Anyway, my happy limit seems to be 400E/wk. Seeing great gains and I'm not hating life.
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Originally Posted by
SC
General consensus seems to be that everyone is different. I'm at 400mg/wk Tren E and have very little sides. Occasional trensomnia, but that's it besides cardio possibly being a bit harder to get through and my appetite falling off a bit.
When I first made the decision to start Tren, I used ACE so when the sides became apparent I could back it off quickly and not be stuck with them for a couple weeks. Started at 30 mg/day and increased 10mg after 1.5-2 weeks to try to find a happy balance. At 490/week of ACE (administered 70 everyday) I started soaking the sheets with night sweats, bad insomnia every night, and I was definitely more irritable. Amazing the difference 90mg makes. (Ran three different sources so far)
Anyway, my happy limit seems to be 400E/wk. Seeing great gains and I'm not hating life.
Thanks bro, this was very informative.
Id definitely start with either ace and I was thinking about going 20 - 30 mg ed. I'm naturally already an insomniac, but I fear the possibility of anxiety.
Weird how some say tren kills their appetite while I heard that it makes some go very hypoglycemic.
What do you prefer more ace or enth?
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