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Originally Posted by
Giru
Ey bro, how are you?? I am going to give you me opinion and is not based in studies, papers or ratios. It is just based in experience. First there is something that made me confuse. You said to use 600mg bolde (200 bolde c + 200 un) that is 400 instead of 600, so what is the correct one?
Imo and experience i used bolde un at 600 and until 900 mg per week. You can feel the difference between them of course. I think that if you were going to use bolde + test only i would say for 600mg of bolde, 350mg of test is ok, but seeing that you will use also masteron i will bring up the test to 500mg. The masteron i will use it only if you are already low in fat, otherwise i think you will not really feel its potencial. Also i never used bolde c, but regarding how long is gonna be your cycle i will use only un or only cyp. If you plan something longer than 12 weeks, use bolde u, if it is shorter then bolde cyp. And if it was for me i will provably save the masteron and change it for trenbo. I really like tren+bolde stack. If you want to discuss more about it, you know where to find me eheheh
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What's up brother good to hear from you. The reason for adding the masteron is because it will stop some of the estrogen which I am very susceptible to and get gyno very easy. Also the EQ is a mix of 200mg cypionate and 200mg undeclenate, the reason for that Bissell that the eat you will kick in faster then after about 6 weeks I will switch over to just undeclenate. I cannot run trend because it gives me anxiety and my hand shaking and being as though I'm a barber I cannot have my hand shaking. haha I'm sure you can understand that. However if you think it is a good idea to apply test to 500mg I will. Oh and my body fat is probably around 7 and 1/2 or 8% so I think I will get good results from masteron even though I'm not really running it to get any leaner it's more of an anti estrogen thing so I don't have to load my body up with aromasin as we all know you need estrogen to grow. After reading this get back to me and let me know what you think brother.
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Originally Posted by
Ragnor
I agree with you on all the above but here's where my mind is at on the 2 different esters on EQ try it as an experiment not as people like you and me run Bold Und only EQ I run also.Havent tried the Cyp or Ace ester on Bold.And Big Mills puts off he doesn't know as much as he actually does idk why.But I did miss read the Original post I was meaning Test esters thought he was running Bold und and 2 different Test esters.I read that wrong.But in beginning of this post said try both esters just to experiment wouldn't hurt anything.I don't see it doing anything different from my opinion but hey never know.On AI I'm an Adex guy but that's what I'm used to using and can dial my dosages in pretty good without bloods. Aromasin is what I'd suggest to most newer guys, it's a lot easier to dose from what I read on people who use it.
VIKING KING
Thank you for clearing that up for him brother I think he jumped the gun before he really read what I was trying to say. I am going to keep adex on hand and probably run .5 twice a week depending on if I feel I need it. Also the reason for me not acting like I know as much as I do and because I wanted to get other people's feedback however you got this guy who posted above you and thanks I know absolutely nothing I told him he should probably go read all my posts on other boards...lol. thank you for your input though brother I really appreciate it
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Originally Posted by
bigmills
I was looking to get some feedback on my new cycle. For once I was thinking about keeping my test lower than my EQ I was thinking 350 mg of test e And 600mg of EQ mix 200mg cypionate and 200mg undeclenate, 500 mg of masteron, 75 mg of proviron, and 10 mg of nolvadex every night. I was wondering what everybody thought about running the EQ that much higher then my test? The reason for the masteron and the the proviron is because i am gyno prone so I figure they could help with the estrogen a little bit. All feedback is always appreciated. Thank you brothers.
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Running Mast and Proviron together your honestly wasting your $.Id go with Mast in the cycle.Nolva at 10 mgs night is supposed to help keep Test from binding to Estrogen so free Test would be higher, I read it works but I don't have the evidence to post so that's just hear say for now.Bulk_cut is right run an AI he suggested Aromasin it's good for an AI.
VIKING KING
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Originally Posted by
Ragnor
Running Mast and Proviron together your honestly wasting your $.Id go with Mast in the cycle.Nolva at 10 mgs night is supposed to help keep Test from binding to Estrogen so free Test would be higher, I read it works but I don't have the evidence to post so that's just hear say for now.Bulk_cut is right run an AI he suggested Aromasin it's good for an AI.
VIKING KING
Definitely brother I understand that masteron and proviron are basically the same thing however money is not an issue. But if you think I should just run the masteron that is what I will do. As far as a aromisin goes, the only reason I didn't add that into the cycle was because in the past I feel like I was taken too much of it and killing too much estrogen and we all know you need estrogen to grow. That was my main reason for adding the masteron. I figured with the Mast and the Nolvadex and maybe .5 adex twice a week I can keep the estrogen or should I say keep the gyno at Bay.. thank you for your feedback brother and keep it coming..
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Originally Posted by
bigmills
Definitely brother I understand that masteron and proviron are basically the same thing however money is not an issue. But if you think I should just run the masteron that is what I will do. As far as a aromisin goes, the only reason I didn't add that into the cycle was because in the past I feel like I was taken too much of it and killing too much estrogen and we all know you need estrogen to grow. That was my main reason for adding the masteron. I figured with the Mast and the Nolvadex and maybe .5 adex twice a week I can keep the estrogen or should I say keep the gyno at Bay.. thank you for your feedback brother and keep it coming..
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Yeah keep it as posted in original post just up the Test to 500mgs brother.Keep everything else the same as you planned.
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Originally Posted by
Ragnor
Yeah keep it as posted in original post just up the Test to 500mgs brother.Keep everything else the same as you planned.
VIKING KING
Okay sounds good brother, and I have Adex that I plan on taking .5 twice a week I also have aromasin on hand. Thank you for your input though brother I greatly appreciate that..
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Originally Posted by
bigmills
Okay sounds good brother, and I have Adex that I plan on taking .5 twice a week I also have aromasin on hand. Thank you for your input though brother I greatly appreciate that..
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No problem.
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EQ 300mg/week for me the same dosage of TE-300 ,nolvadex 20mg/day , proviron 50mg/day
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Originally Posted by
Smik
EQ 300mg/week for me the same dosage of TE-300 ,nolvadex 20mg/day , proviron 50mg/day
Not to be rude but who could possibly make an intelligent informed decision based on the info you've given?
We need some stats, experience and what your trying to accomplish. Also try reading the stikey posts, they've got great info.
PAIN IS WEAKNESS LEAVING THE BODY
SO DON'T BE A PUSSY
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Originally Posted by
bulk_cut
Unless a new study came out recently that I'm not aware of, Tren's ratio is 500:500. Exactly 5 times testosterone on both sides. And unless I'm not understanding something you say you're taking 350mg of test-e, some test-c and test undecanate. There's no need for the different esters. Pic one and go with it. You should not take Nolvadex on cycle, it is not an aromatase inhibitor. It actually can raise your estrogen. Just because it can help control gyno does not mean it's the best or right thing to do. You need to use one either Arimidex, Aromasin (best choice) or Letro as they are the only aromatase inhibitors available. Masteron and Proviron and are not effective at controlling estrogen and should in no way ever be used on cycle thinking that it is. Once again there are ONLY three compounds to be used in controlling estrogen - Arimidex, Aromasin (best choice) and Letro.
Based on your knowledge of the compounds, or lack there of, and the reasons you've chosen to use the compounds, I'd say it's a very bad cycle.
There is tons of research on mastron for helping with e2 levels
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