Quote Originally Posted by thebear View Post
For Sachie to take something only 2x a wk and talk about it in this way, you know it’s strong. I got some in my stash, elaborate more on the mtren...or PM me so we don’t hijack this thread.


I am a part time Proctologist and full time Gynecologist Injectable sdrol
As for Methyl-Tren you may check out this a comprehensive and interesting review from Mike Arnold (404 error - sciroxxonline.com) -

OK, guys. I am finally ready to give my review. My apologies for the delay. I got sick multiple times, had urgent and unexpected business matters that I needed to prioritize, I had to go out of town twice, and then the holidays came around.

With that said, I have broken my review up into multiple categories. If there is anything I left out that you want to know, just post it and I will respond to you.





Cycle Length: 21 Days

Dosage

Days 1-5: 2 mg/day.
Days 6-13: 3 mg/day.
Days 14-21: 5 mg/day

Injection Frequency: Twice daily, with 50% of the listed dose in the a.m. and 50% in the p.m.



Cosmetic Effects: M-Tren was a dry compound...similar to Superdrol in effect, although perhaps not as much of a skin thinning effect. I definitely did not hold any sub-q water on it, however. It provided pronounced muscle fullness that came on immediately (I noticed within 48 hours or less) and was on par with other methylated AAS known for providing this effect. I would say it was comparable to Anadrol in this regard, but maybe slightly less potent than SD. Still, I was very impressed with how big and full it made me look in such a short period of time...and these effects only improved as the dosage went up.

Given the fact that this steroid is so androgenic, I am sure that all the common androgenic side effects, such as hair loss, oily skin, etc., will apply to the typical user (assuming they are prone to these androgenic side effects). However, being that I have already lost most of my hair and always have a health supply of androgens running through my bloodstream, I did not notice a worsening of any of these side effects. Things simply remained as they were. But...like I mentioned above, I do believe that if someone wasn't accustomed to chronic androgen use, they would most certainly experience at least some androgenic side effects, with one's genetic propensity determining both their occurrence and severity.

I did not notice any gyno, but then again, I was a using raloxifene; my SERM of choice for on-cycle gyno prevention, especially when using 19-nor based drugs.

Potency (mass gains): I rate this stuff at near the top. I put on about 10 lbs...and could've gained more if I had pushed the calories higher (note: I only increased my calories about 300 above maintenance, which isn't much for me)

Potency (strength gains): Again, I ate M-tren near the top. Strength gains were excellent and for me, they were comparable to SD or Anadrol.

Impact on Emotional Wellbeing: Because of M-Tren's close association to trenbolone, many people likely assume that M-Tren is going to provide similar effects on the mind and mood. Contrary to this generally accepted belief, it was not that way for me at all...and in my experience, this is here the product really shines. In short, I felt awesome on M-Tren. I didn’t feel irritable or short-fused. Rather, I felt energized and invigorated. In short, I just felt good when using it. This was one of the stand-outs of this particular steroid.

Impact on Hepatic Function: My AST and ALT ended up at 71 and 74, respectively, which isn't too bad considering how toxic it was claimed to be.
Now, don't get me wrong, I most certainly do think this steroid could cause definite harm if used at a dosage comparable to other methyls, but fortunately, we do not need to use anywhere near those doses to see great results. If I had to estimate its toxicity based on my liver readings, I would say 5 mg of M-Tren is comparable to 30 mg SD. Note: I was using TUDCA at 250 mg/day and NAC at 300 mg/day.

Impact on Blood Pressure: If anything, my BP increased a few points at the most, so it basically had no effect in this area--for me. I say "for me" because AAS in general don't seem to have much of an impact on my BP. Therefore, I wouldn't assume you are going to respond the same way I did. I am fortunate when it comes to AAS and their effect son my BP. Most people are not.

Impact on Appetite & Digestion: This had no impact on my appetite at all. This surprised me, as I was fully expecting to have my appetite shutdown by the end of week two. This isn't just a "benefit" for me, it is absolutely essential, as any methyl which prevents me from eating has no place in my program. So, the fact that I still wanted to eat by the end of the cycle and could easily get in all my calories was a big load lifted off my shoulders and made the entire experience more fun.






For years we were told that M-Tren is so liver toxic, that even doses of 500 mcg/day could potentially cause liver injury...and most of the people who talked about this (none of whom had any actual experience with the drug) recommended a maximum dose of 1-2 mg/day. Most recommendations fell in the 250 mcg to 1 mg range. This dosing scheme is sub-optimal and in my experience, completely unnecessary from a hepatic functioning standpoint.

Personally, I consider 500 mcg to be a ridiculous dose and not worth running. Just as we wouldn't run 5 mg of Anadrol daily, neither should we be running M-Tren at 500 mcg daily. As strong as this stuff is, 500 mcg/day just isn't enough, at least if you're using it as a mass-builder. I believe the optimal dosing range for this drug, without exposing oneself to unnecessary risk, is between 3-5 mg/day. Maybe 2 mg/day on the low end.

I will definitely be using this AAS again. It's not something I would run frequently, but it does have its place among the mass-building methyls. Aside from everything I mentioned above, I will also admit that I was excited to try it because of its reputation (previous versions I've tried were bunk). It just seemed like such a bad-ass steroid...and it is. When you start using it and realize you are seeing changes in your body after using just a handful of mg's, you start to appreciate how powerful it really is.