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PAiN
07-21-2013, 10:46 PM
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COUPLE REFUSES TO OPEN DOOR TO NAKED RAPE VICTIM:

SENSIBLE BUT SAD REACTION...


It's nearly midnight. Suddenly, you hear someone pounding on your door and then a woman screaming that she's been raped. You look out and see her. She's nearly naked and obviously distraught.

But you live in an isolated area. No one is nearby. You don't know how long it will take the police to arrive.


The man tells the dispatcher, "There's a girl at my door screaming and crying that she's been raped. I will not let her in."

You can hear a dog barking in the background and then the man reassuring the woman that the police are on their way, while another woman (I'll assume his wife) talks to the dispatcher. She emphasizes that the woman is "nude" and says she'd like to give her a blanket but won't.

"I'm afraid to open the door," the woman says.

Afraid? There's a woman nearly naked, screaming and crying that she's been raped, and you're afraid to help her? My first reaction was that these two failed the test for Good Samaritan.

It brings to mind the case of Kitty Genovese, who was stabbed to death in her Queens neighborhood in 1964 while as many as 38 witnesses saw or heard the attack. Although subsequent stories have called the details into question, it's become shorthand for a society turned unfeeling and unresponsive to crime victims.

No one even called the police in 1964 when they heard Genovese's screams, while the Florida couple did call 911 and begged for police to come quickly.

Should they have opened that front door and invited her in? Given her a blanket to cover herself?

Consider that Deland, Fla., while calling itself "The Athens of Florida," has a higher crime rate than Florida's average and "a much higher" rate than the national average for burglaries and assaults, according to usa.com.

Movies like "Cape Fear" and "The Strangers" don't help the comfort level of anyone living in an isolated area, either.

Could this have been a diversionary tactic to allow someone to gain entry into the house? Sure, if she was naked, she had no place for a concealed weapon, but what if she was working with someone else? A comical scam was set up late last month in Crossville, Tenn., when a woman asked if she could swim nude in her neighbor's pool. While the homeowner watched her skinnydipping antics, the woman's husband robbed the house of $2,000 worth of jewelry, medications and a firearm.

Lt. Jack Waples, a Deland police spokesman, gave residents advice in a statement:

"You control how you respond. For example, tell the person to back away from the door to a place (you're) comfortable with so you can throw out a blanket or something, then go back inside. Always beware of your surroundings around the entry way such as high bushes someone else could be hiding behind. Every situation will be unique in its own way and the decision to help is up to the individual depending on how much they can do to assist."

Fans of the Second Amendment will say this is a situation where you need to be armed and ready; maybe having a shotgun handy might not be a bad idea, but I'd hate to open the door and risk further traumatizing the poor woman.

Police report that she had been at a gas station that evening where she was forced, at knifepoint, to enter a man's car. He drove her to another location and raped her a number of times, police said. She managed to escape and ran to the couple's home, seeking help.

Juan L. Vera-Soledad, 29, of DeLand has been charged with kidnapping and sexual battery with a weapon.

So what would I have done? Probably allowed fear — or is it caution and common sense? — to dictate my actions, especially if my children were home with me, and followed the choice made by the Florida couple: Call 911 and wait for the police.

It would have been a long, painful and agonizing 11 minutes, but my imagination takes over and wonders. If the case had not been what it turned out to be, another headline that might be making the rounds right now:

"Couple attacked and robbed after opening door to naked, screaming woman."

And yes, that is a sad commentary on our times.

Diana Reese is a journalist in Overland Park, Kan.

tbonexl
07-21-2013, 11:04 PM
It's a fucked up world we live in now a days...

sofargone561
07-21-2013, 11:06 PM
i would have let her in. no questions asked.

Gunner16
07-21-2013, 11:18 PM
My gut reaction would have been to let her in but with that said I would have had my wife get my .45.

sofargone561
07-21-2013, 11:21 PM
^oh i dont answer my door without my gun in hand as it is. im very very paranoid lol scared the fucking shit out the the ups guy one day. i bet he never fucks up my packs me and him get along great now lol.

swamphunter
07-21-2013, 11:22 PM
Crazy world....I would like to think I would have let her in with my 45 in hand and my wife with her 40 in hand. I say this now but who really knows when it comes down to it.

tbonexl
07-21-2013, 11:24 PM
What's with all the 45s? I'd rather pull out the single six then a 45.. better chance of hitting the Target as opposed to going deaf lol

swamphunter
07-21-2013, 11:27 PM
What's with all the 45s? I'd rather pull out the single six then a 45.. better chance of hitting the Target as opposed to going deaf lol

Forgot to mention its a judge with tactical rounds:)

tbonexl
07-21-2013, 11:27 PM
The only place I go without a gun is to the job site.. never know these days.. don't care if I only got a 22 rifle.. its something atleast...

beanlicker
07-21-2013, 11:28 PM
Honestly, I would have to be in the situation to know whether she would be allowed into my home.....there are some crazy fuckers out there.

That being said, she certainly would have at least been given a blanket, water and any medical attention I could provide until the police and an ambulance arrived.

sofargone561
07-21-2013, 11:29 PM
lol my house is very small and there are guns everywhere in it so i have a huge option lol i will most likely be grabbing my baby either way. glock 26 with a 17rnd mag and plus 2 extionion for 20 rounds totaly. may only be 9mm but at piont blank thats all ill need and i will have enough bullets to get to a better gun if need be. idk what it is about this stupid little glock but its my favorite gun right now lol. i enjoy helping people and risking myself or not theres no way i would be able to not let her inside. u dont have to let her insto you bed lol. just open the door pull her inside close and lock the door and tell her ass to sit there till the police get there and figure the shit out

tbonexl
07-21-2013, 11:30 PM
I do like the judges. I got a hammerless one loaded with 410s

sofargone561
07-21-2013, 11:31 PM
The only place I go without a gun is to the job site.. never know these days.. don't care if I only got a 22 rifle.. its something atleast...
right there with you bro 100% i dont even check the mail without packin

swamphunter
07-21-2013, 11:31 PM
I do like the judges. I got a hammerless one loaded with 410s

I have them both in at the same time. 4/10 tactical for up close and 45 for farther out

Gopro
07-21-2013, 11:46 PM
I have a dam arrsenal in my house, with a loaded shotgun by the door, and a pistol on me almost at all times cause i have my CCW. I would have let her in.

4everstrong
07-22-2013, 01:11 AM
I would of let her in but would of had a gun with me before i did anything and would of checked the surroundings out.

BIGBOSS
07-22-2013, 01:28 AM
I would have helped her out. I would have grabbed my 45. and made sure there would be no incidents when I open the
door. I am in Florida so I am protected by the STAND YOUR GROUND LAW. Hopefully she isn't or anyone else isn't
trying any funny business because they all WILL get shot. I hate even saying that but it is what it is. Good post
Brother PAiN!

49ER
07-22-2013, 01:35 AM
I dont know what I would have done I probably would have opened like everyone else gun in hand. At the same time I fucken hate when people knock on my door no one needs to be knocking cuz I dont fucken know them. I usually yell out the door what do u want? Lol thats how home invasions happen its fucked but u cant trust anyone now a days.

beanlicker
07-22-2013, 01:49 AM
Unless the weather conditions are extremely harsh or unless she is in immediate danger from someone else in the area, giving her entry into your home is inconsequential as long as her immediate needs are addressed....police and medical assistance, clothing or blanket, water/food and someone to reassure her that help is on the way and she is safe.

hibye
07-22-2013, 12:17 PM
I would let her in, no questions asked.

Misterb
07-22-2013, 12:31 PM
open the door and try to help, if its a set up o well i can replace stuff