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[DigitalAsh]

Hey guys just thought I would make this thread to give me a chance to help out any of the guys here on BOP who have brewing questions. The other sponsors are more than welcome to contribute, but I thought as professional brewers with more experience than most, it was only right to make that experience available to anyone who needs it. So feel free anyone to post questions about anything brewing/AAS related and I will do my best to help you out! :)

[Gopro]

Sweet!! This is gonna be one knowledgable thread. Great idea Digital!! I will be asking alot of questions, but i gotta get some sleep first. Cant grow with no sleep!!!!

[BIGBOSS]

Yes indeed! This will b a.very informative.thread. Even though I am
Not a.brewer It gives me a chance some of the challenges.they have
On brewing. Thanks Brother DA!

[chrisotpherm]

I believe what throws questions into soon to be brewers is when someone says 20% and 2% of a solvent what does that mean in mls?

[Joker]

I believe what throws questions into soon to be brewers is when someone says 20% and 2% of a solvent what does that mean in mls?

Example :
Total oil in ml's (finished product) =100 ml's
BA CONCENTRATION .02 = 2%
BB CONCENTRATION .20 = 20%

now you multiply both those percentages to the total volume of fluids (ml's in oil)

100ml's. × .02 = 2 ml's of BA used
100ml's × .20 = 20ml's of BB used

If the total volume is 200, 300, 400 you would use the same concept.. .

[DigitalAsh]

Example :
Total oil in ml's (finished product) =100 ml's
BA CONCENTRATION .02 = 2%
BB CONCENTRATION .20 = 20%

now you multiply both those percentages to the total volume of fluids (ml's in oil)

100ml's. × .02 = 2 ml's of BA used
100ml's × .20 = 20ml's of BB used

If the total volume is 200, 300, 400 you would use the same concept.. .



yep absolutely, you want to do all of your math from the reference of your finished volume of product. So you want 1000ml of prop from 100g, 2% of 1000 is 20ml , 20% of 1000 is 200ml :)


I will usually combine my BA, BB, powder, and about a third of the needed oil first and begin heating and stirring. After you've got it warm and most of it has dissolved I will slowly add oil in stages while heating until it reaches the desired volume of product

[49ER]

May e someone can teach me to suspend raw orals into liquid I tried making cialis caps and they sucked wasted 5 grams

[Joker]

May e someone can teach me to suspend raw orals into liquid I tried making cialis caps and they sucked wasted 5 grams

You want a suspension or solution.... there's a difference. ....
Also... my personal preference and opinion. I like a solution over a suspension. ...
I do believe there is a write up in the home brewing section on this. Pretty accurate from my quick look over. Obviously you can tweak it here and there but the basic fundamentals are there.

[kuntrykok]

You want a suspension or solution.... there's a difference. ....
Also... my personal preference and opinion. I like a solution over a suspension. ...
I do believe there is a write up in the home brewing section on this. Pretty accurate from my quick look over. Obviously you can tweak it here and there but the basic fundamentals are there.

Hey Joker, what's the difference in a solution and a suspension? Thanks bro!

[49ER]

You want a suspension or solution.... there's a difference. ....
Also... my personal preference and opinion. I like a solution over a suspension. ...
I do believe there is a write up in the home brewing section on this. Pretty accurate from my quick look over. Obviously you can tweak it here and there but the basic fundamentals are there.

Ill have to check it out I dont know the difference I thought it was called a suspension lol I dont care I just wanna drink that shit :)

[Misterb]

how accurate are suspensions for dosing, does the floating particles still have hormone or does some of it go into the liquid, basically if I suck up more flakes an i getting more than i want ?

[Joker]

Hey Joker, what's the difference in a solution and a suspension? Thanks bro!

Are you asking me whats the difference between a suspension and a solution. I've read your posts...I know you know that. .. But if you're asking me why I prefer a solution over a suspension. ... idk I think its more preference. . It's fully dissolved..... my thinking. .. better dosage. .... if you have it equally dissolved throughout the solution , you're getting a more accurate dosage ... vs lets say .... shaking a bottle..... idk... I think it's more in my head. .lmao ; )

[Joker]

Ill have to check it out I dont know the difference I thought it was called a suspension lol I dont care I just wanna drink that shit :)

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/mixtures-solutions-suspensions-solubility-d_1282.html

[Smoove]

I've had this answered in PM but still don't fully understand it (too much weed?)
I want to make my own test blend. How do I figure the amount of raw powder for each? Say the total strength will be 400 mg, I need to divide my powders up to have different strengths of each. Say cyp 100 mg, prop 50mg and so on.

[kuntrykok]

Are you asking me whats the difference between a suspension and a solution. I've read your posts...I know you know that. .. But if you're asking me why I prefer a solution over a suspension. ... idk I think its more preference. . It's fully dissolved..... my thinking. .. better dosage. .... if you have it equally dissolved throughout the solution , you're getting a more accurate dosage ... vs lets say .... shaking a bottle..... idk... I think it's more in my head. .lmao ; )

That's what I was wanting to know brother, why you prefer a solution. Thanks!

[Joker]

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/mixtures-solutions-suspensions-solubility-d_1282.html

That's just the basic definition of the two. The thing that needs to be done in order for it to become a solution (talking hormones) is heat. You need heat in this equation for it to work.

Example : winstrol ..... a fucking bitch.... takes the right tempature and solvents in order to keep it in a solution (injectable oil ) if not ... you end up with a bunch of suspension in oil lol
Fucking pain in the ass. lol =)

[49ER]

That's just the basic definition of the two. The thing that needs to be done in order for it to become a solution (talking hormones) is heat. You need heat in this equation for it to work.

Example : winstrol ..... a fucking bitch.... takes the right tempature and solvents in order to keep it in a solution (injectable oil ) if not ... you end up with a bunch of suspension in oil lol
Fucking pain in the ass. lol =)

I thought it was a link to straight how to do it lol

[DigitalAsh]

That's what I was wanting to know brother, why you prefer a solution. Thanks!


A solution, by definition, has a more even distribution of hormone. It also does not have the risk of particles settling or separating from the rest of the ingredients. Now a suspension can be done right, and as long as your hormone is dissolved first in a solvent and your carrier vehicle is suited to making a good suspension. You need very fine particle size, but if you can achieve that and prevent clumping and crystallizing of your hormones then a brief shake will make a suspension an acceptably accurate dosage for most purposes. I choose to make suspensions for the time being until I transition to pressed tablets soon, because it allows me to get a higher mg/ml than would be possible with a solution with some compounds, and it also allows me to use an almost identical "recipe" for every compound. Making solutions requires that you know what concentration will hold with each compound, and how much PEG etc you need for each different compound to make a proper solution. Some compounds like Var will not hold above 20mg/ml in most solutions I've seen on the web. With a suspension I can make 100mg/ml Var, and with the same recipe also make 50mg/ml dbol, 20mg/ml nolva etc. Its a matter of personal choice, but I think suspensions, if done right are more cost effective, and easier for the small scale brewer than making solutions of everything IMO :)

[DigitalAsh]

I've had this answered in PM but still don't fully understand it (too much weed?)
I want to make my own test blend. How do I figure the amount of raw powder for each? Say the total strength will be 400 mg, I need to divide my powders up to have different strengths of each. Say cyp 100 mg, prop 50mg and so on.


Well if you want 400mg/ml, you will have 4g of raws in each 10ml. So just imagine what ratios you want. If you want 100mg test prop/ml that would be 1g/10ml. 200mg/ml Test E So you have 2g Test E per 10ml etc. This is just the way I would figure it out, but pick your compounds and how much of each you want in each ml. Then choose how much total volume of oil, or how many grams of powder you want to brew. Then its just simple math in figuring out how many grams of each you need, to equal your total volume in ml finished product, or equivalent amount in grams of powder... As I said you will have 4g of powder per 10ml vial. You want to brew 1000ml, that would be 400g of raws. Using the math earlier that would be 100g prop,, 200g Test E, and 100g whatever other test compound you want. Make sense?

[Smoove]

Well if you want 400mg/ml, you will have 4g of raws in each 10ml. So just imagine what ratios you want. If you want 100mg test prop/ml that would be 1g/10ml. 200mg/ml Test E So you have 2g Test E per 10ml etc. This is just the way I would figure it out, but pick your compounds and how much of each you want in each ml. Then choose how much total volume of oil, or how many grams of powder you want to brew. Then its just simple math in figuring out how many grams of each you need, to equal your total volume in ml finished product, or equivalent amount in grams of powder... As I said you will have 4g of powder per 10ml vial. You want to brew 1000ml, that would be 400g of raws. Using the math earlier that would be 100g prop,, 200g Test E, and 100g whatever other test compound you want. Make sense?

Ooooooooo yeah, I got it now. I gotta get real focused first. I just finished my workout so I am buzzing hard right now. I think I got it. Thanks for the explanation.

[Joker]

Ooooooooo yeah, I got it now. I gotta get real focused first. I just finished my workout so I am buzzing hard right now. I think I got it. Thanks for the explanation.


Biggest thing you want to remember. ... What is the total amount of finished product you want. .... You want to end up with 50ml. 100ml 500ml so on and so forth .then what mg per dose... That will dictate your hormone weight. That will also dictate your solvent amount. From there its just crunching the numbers and applying the process. Which will vary from chemist to chemist. The formulas are pretty much the same , its just the lil things that will make the difference.

[bigdude]

Biggest thing you want to remember. ... What is the total amount of finished product you want. .... You want to end up with 50ml. 100ml 500ml so on and so forth .then what mg per dose... That will dictate your hormone weight. That will also dictate your solvent amount. From there its just crunching the numbers and applying the process. Which will vary from chemist to chemist. The formulas are pretty much the same , its just the lil things that will make the diff


erence.
Can I try out for the gang joker?