Hello Brotherhood!

[iansane]

Thanks for letting me join! never posted b4 id say intermediate level bodybuilder 45yrs old 240lbs 20% bf. training for 30 years gear off and on for 15 years last cycle was January - april 2013 ran pct came off. Started coasting cycle test prop 100 2x wk and test e e5d for the past 3 months just picked up some new gear from phoenix and looking for some advice on second half of the split cycle. goal is to pack on another 15lbs then cut to 220lbs. was planning 1st half of split 1ml sust 350 eod, 1ml test prop 100 daily and test e e3d for 8 weeks then 2nd half go to clen yohimbine, tren a & prop..... thoughts on dosage? I have never taken clenbuterol before im sure I left out many things so ask away!

[bigsam]

Welcome!

Go easy on the clen and gradually increase the dose to a point where you are comfortable with it and stay there then taper off at the end.

Have you ever ran tren before?

[PAiN]

The Clen should be cycled similar to this below for 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off with a low dose of Benadryl on the days off to clear up the receptors

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 100mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg-120mcg
Day13: 80mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to normal gradually)
Day14: 60mcg


Some people do go higher with the dosage, but I wouldn't recommend exceeding 200mcg's. The dosage also depends on the Clen you get because some are alot more potent than others. You will be able to figure out the right dosage for you when you are on it. It may be lower or it could be higher than what I posted, but stay where you are comfortable.

You could also add in an ECA stack on the 2 weeks you are off.

Tren Ace you can run it ed or eod. You can go 50mg-100mg ed or eod depending on your experience and how well your body can handle it.

[PAiN]

And welcome to the site bro great to see you posting keep it up. Also let us know how your experience with Phoenix goes for you and how the gear is.

[iansane]

yes ive done a few cycles of tren a with win or cut stack, but never clen.... trying to find something else other than win...although AWESOM results! I cant sleep well on winstrol and I get the night sweats pretty bad.

[iansane]

And welcome to the site bro great to see you posting keep it up. Also let us know how your experience with Phoenix goes for you and how the gear is.
Thank you pain! So far so good, felt the 1st sust 350 pin in right shoulder for day and half. Im clean and use one new heavy gauge to draw and a new one to pin so it wasn't user error but hit left quad this morning for pin #2 sust 350 and solid no pain. Test E and prop so far so good. Also got a Viagra/Cialis/clomid blend I am a little anxious to try but only day 3, my girl is already wondering what the fuck is up. So far its legit and the real deal all bottle levels the same consistent and the colors match. Ill know soon enough regarding results. Better info in a few days. Keep you posted.

[iansane]

The Clen should be cycled similar to this below for 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off with a low dose of Benadryl on the days off to clear up the receptors

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 100mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg-120mcg
Day13: 80mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to normal gradually)
Day14: 60mcg


Some people do go higher with the dosage, but I wouldn't recommend exceeding 200mcg's. The dosage also depends on the Clen you get because some are alot more potent than others. You will be able to figure out the right dosage for you when you are on it. It may be lower or it could be higher than what I posted, but stay where you are comfortable.

You could also add in an ECA stack on the 2 weeks you are off.

Tren Ace you can run it ed or eod. You can go 50mg-100mg ed or eod depending on your experience and how well your body can handle it.
Great info! thank you very much! My body handles tren well, unfortunately the libido doesn't like it too much...lol. well no laughing matter. Ill start PCT and add a performance enhancer. Ive heard about the ECA stack when do you suggest it?

[PAiN]

yes ive done a few cycles of tren a with win or cut stack, but never clen.... trying to find something else other than win...although AWESOM results! I cant sleep well on winstrol and I get the night sweats pretty bad.


On Clen make sure you don't take it past 4pm so maybe you can get some sleep lol.

[PAiN]

Great info! thank you very much! My body handles tren well, unfortunately the libido doesn't like it too much...lol. well no laughing matter. Ill start PCT and add a performance enhancer. Ive heard about the ECA stack when do you suggest it?

You can take it in between running the Clen.

Weeks 1-2 Clen
Weeks 3-4 ECA
Weeks 5-6 Clen
Weeks 7-8 ECA

If you want to read up more on an ECA stack here you go http://brotherhoodofpain.com/showthread.php?6774-ECA-Stack-amp-Yohimbine

[rmkicks]

Welcome to BOP

[beanlicker]

Glad to have you here!