Trensomnia. What's your remedy?

[VIOLATER]

So what's some of your thoughts, remedies and protocol for dealing with the unwanted common side effect of tren insomnia? I'm currently running some tren A and tren E and I haven't hardly slept in about 4 nights now. The night sweats and joint pain I'm controlling but the not sleeping part is killing me. Melatonin aint doing shit lol. Thinking of trying some unisom just hesitate. What's some of yalls thought and/or suggestions? Thanks!

[PAiN]

Have you tried Ambien? It works for some. I came off tren a few weeks ago and don't think I will be using it again. The staying up for days at a time is a bitch.

[08gsxr]

Doctor put me on ambien for when I came off of third shift. Stuff works like a charm and isn't addicting. Wait about 3 hours on an empty stomach and it's night night time

[VIOLATER]

Haven't tried anything other than herbal, Melatonin ect. I was wondering if they may be something in the sleep aids like those that don't mix well with the gear?... I usually don't get it this severe man but this is pretty bad. No sleep, joint pain, even some lower back (kidneys, no blood in urine) maybe I should cut back on it and see if it helps.

[Rooroo]

It's amazing what we put our selves through to gain some muscle. I feel for u V ! Try taking 2 or 3 Benadryl tabs roughly 30 mins before u want to fall asleep . When my wife can't sleep Benadryl does the trick.

[08gsxr]

Melatonin works good to an extent. It's not a sedative though. And like any other medicine you become immune to it. I haven't with ambien. Been taking it for 5 months. It's a good sleep. Be careful with Benadryl though. Too much antihistamines can react bad with certain things. I can't take Benadryl. Medically I'm allergic. It makes my legs feel restless. Tell the doc you can't sleep straight through the night. He will give you ambien.

[VIOLATER]

Thanks roo. Forgot about benadryl. Glad to hear ambien us working gsxr. In mean time I deal with it. Think I'll try benadryl with a shot of nyquil tonight. U just worry about the sleep aids chemical makeup fucking with the gear. Like fix one thing and gain another problem lol.. My liver is taxed enough lol

[08gsxr]

Good luck brother. Just don't take too much Benadryl lol

[Rooroo]

08GSxr is absolutely correct regarding Benadryl . Taking more won't give the desired effect necessarily and could very well do the exact opposite . I wouldn't mix the nightquil with the Benadryl either. Good luck bro!!

[08gsxr]

NyQuil is some bad stuff. But the thing about that is acetaminophine. ( ibuprofen) practically. That stuff is HARSH on the liver and kidneys. Be careful. The only reason people feel the affect of NyQuil is the diphenhydramine and 10% alcohol. A shot if jack and a Benadryl gives the same feeling lol. Don't do it!

[VIOLATER]

I just got some ZzzQuil, Its got like dbl the active ingredient as Unisom, and maybe just one Tylenol PM. what yall think? oh btw the ZzzQuil is just their version of sleep aid like unisom. no cold meds.

[08gsxr]

Oh yeah zzzquil is cool. It's the same as Benadryl. It's diphenhydramine hcl. Anything OTC has diphenhydramine as it's what makes you drowsy. Lol. An actually sedative like ambien will make you sleep better than an antihistamine

[VIOLATER]

yea im gonna hit my Dr up tomorrow about getting ambien. Unfortunately im skeptical about the other. like you said, "drowsy" hell i got no problem getting drowsy lol its actually sleeping i cant achieve!

[08gsxr]

Lol falling asleep is hard bro. Drowsy just makes you feel loopy as hell. Take an ambien 30 min before bed on an empty stomach close your eyes and sleep until you hear an alarm. Just don't fuck the old lady. You won't remember it. Lmao.


My girlfriend said we got pizza watched a movie and I spanked her monkey. I don't remember nothing. Lmao

[Rooroo]

If didn't experience the same thing that 08 did regarding the ambien I would not believe it. The wife has mentioned our escapades from the night before the next morning and I had no idea what she was talking about ! Sometimes it's like being reminded of a dream that u only remember bits and pieces about . Ice cream , blueberry pancakes and Chinese food do not stand a chance in my refrigerator if I took ambien and happened to wake up,This shit makes the munchies one gets from smoking weed like child's play!

[08gsxr]

It's exactly like that! You don't remember it until it's talked about!

[VIOLATER]

I'll have to remember this when i got a chick not putting out lmao....

[08gsxr]

You know.. Speaking of that. She wouldn't shut up one night. I had work 4 hours later. She said get me a glass if water while I go pee I said okay. :) chopped up an ambien within 7 minutes she was in a coma. Best night of my life.

[VIOLATER]

lmmfao!

[08gsxr]

Do whatcha gotta do brother lol

[Rmewrench]

So what's some of your thoughts, remedies and protocol for dealing with the unwanted common side effect of tren insomnia? I'm currently running some tren A and tren E and I haven't hardly slept in about 4 nights now. The night sweats and joint pain I'm controlling but the not sleeping part is killing me. Melatonin aint doing shit lol. Thinking of trying some unisom just hesitate. What's some of yalls thought and/or suggestions? Thanks!

What dose are you running the tren at? What other gear are you running with the tren, and at what doses?? How far into this cycle are you?

[VIOLATER]

front loaded Test E
wk 1-6 Tren A .75mg EOD
wk 1-6 Prop 100mg EOD
wk 1-20 Test E 350mg 2xwk
wk 1-18 Tren E 200mg 2xwk
wk 6-18 EQ 300mg 2xwk
wk 6-18 Mast Prop 100mg EOD

PCT: Aromasin, HCG, Clomid, Noval

[Rmewrench]

How many weeks in are you??

[VIOLATER]

well fella's i slept like a rock! passed out around 8ish and slept consistent until 5.....damn i needed that! drop the kids off at school and hit the gym baby! :muscullift: thanks for all the help yall

[VIOLATER]

How many weeks in are you??

sorry i missed that. 2nd week

[Rmewrench]

First time with tren?? At those doses I don't get any negative sides.. I've run 1g a week of rren before and only side I got was night sweats. When I run tren I keep my test @200-400mg a week and then sides are minimal for me. Only time. I get bad sides is when I run test and tren at high doses together. Maybe try tapering off the short esters sooner than your 6wk mark and you'll be able to sleep. Or drop the prop now. And see if that helps. And keep running your tren a for the 6.

[VIOLATER]

yea i was talking earlier in thread that i may cut it back. its not my first time with tren, but first time this high of dose. I usually only get night sweats too but this has been a little of all. I can take care of the joints and kidneys but the no sleep is rough since im hesitant with sleep aids. I worry about dependency and getting actual REM sleep. sleep after all is what we use to repair/re-energize.

[beeflover]

Ambien,benadryl,nightquil,Or a fatty

[Rmewrench]

Make sure you're drinking atleast a gallon of water a day.

[VIOLATER]

Ambien,benadryl,nightquil,Or a fatty

ive taken a fatty down a time or two lmao


Make sure you're drinking atleast a gallon of water a day.

absolutely. everyday brother.

[08gsxr]

ive taken a fatty down a time or two lmao



absolutely. everyday brother.

Damn son! Hell lace it with ambien lmao!!

[Rooroo]

Glad to hear u got some sleep. We are almost worthless without it consistently .

[Rmewrench]

the problem with fatty's is after youre done you have to get them out before daybreak....

[Jdiggity]

Mate just use the OTC anti histamine type of sleeper. Ambien and ***** and all that stuff is addictive as hell. I recon one night a week to hit the benzos anymore is a no go. Just my 2 cents

[08gsxr]

Just be careful with the antihistamines. ***** is not a sleep aid. People are wrong when they go there. ***** is for anxiety. It's not in a class of sedatives to my knowledge. Ambien is only addicting if you make it. Ambien is a mild sedative. If you take antihistamines on the regular chances are you'll become immune to them and when you actually do need them for allergies or whatever it won't work lol

[terps32]

I've been on ambient for 8 years and it is very addictive with horrible withdrawal symptoms. Don't listen to anyone who says its not addictive its complete BS.

[08gsxr]

I've been taking it for 6 months come off for 6 months. Compared to other sedatives it's the least addicting but everyone is different brother. Not trying to cause any conflict or anything but I do know insomnia is a bitch lol. I do whatever works and ambien is the only thing. What mg are you taking? Mine is generic I guess. Zolpidem tartrate 10mg

[Odin21]

I've tried the *****/valium route, but it just didn't cut it. The upside to ambien (zolpidem) is it helps you hit deeper stages of sleep compared to the benzo's, definitely did the trick for me. Though you may not remember the random bag of doritos you grubbed in the middle of the night. If you continue to wake up mid night you may consider ambien CR or the sublingual zolpidem (Intermezzo) tabs.

[Vikingquest]

10 mgs of melatonin, 2-3 benadryl and if it's bad some of the normal sleeping pills (otc). Usually don't need the sleeping pills but some nights I do. Also, workout in the am so your cortisol levels are lower by the time you hit the sheets.

[zoomzelineee]

I dont really get bad insomnia, and i am running tren atm, i just use 3mg of benadryl and it does the job

[Brasco]

I've been on ambient for 8 years and it is very addictive with horrible withdrawal symptoms. Don't listen to anyone who says its not addictive its complete BS.

i have been on it the same amount of time and it's one of the worst to withdrawal from. But I have been known to take it and smash the fridge and the old lady. Not remembering a thing. But tren is a wicked machine. You have to be ready for the sides have some cialis on stand by, sheets and some ambian or something.

[bulk_cut]

You know.. Speaking of that. She wouldn't shut up one night. I had work 4 hours later. She said get me a glass if water while I go pee I said okay. :) chopped up an ambien within 7 minutes she was in a coma. Best night of my life.

Lmfao.... hahahahaha.....

[bkahl220]

I take 1mg of prami sleep perfect every night before I got it I didn't sleep at all worked first night I got it stuff is great and has many other benefits

[PAiN]

You know.. Speaking of that. She wouldn't shut up one night. I had work 4 hours later. She said get me a glass if water while I go pee I said okay. :) chopped up an ambien within 7 minutes she was in a coma. Best night of my life.


HAHAHA LMFAO!

[animal87]

I just view trensomnia as another chance to eat.