estrogen,whats to much?

[bone]

On my latest set of labs I came in at 67pg/ml normal is 10-40.I know estrogen can be helpful but when is it time to start running adex.I always keep some on hand but I'm never quite sure when to run it.Some people tell me only if you develop a nodual and others I know run it there whole cycle.

[kubes]

On my latest set of labs I came in at 67pg/ml normal is 10-40.I know estrogen can be helpful but when is it time to start running adex.I always keep some on hand but I'm never quite sure when to run it.Some people tell me only if you develop a nodual and others I know run it there whole cycle.

You have to look at several thing. First off what are your T levels? The estrogen ranges they gave you are for a male with testosterone levels in there normal ref range usually 300-1100 ng/dl and if your T levels are up there around 3000 ng/dl you are going to need higher then normal estrogen ranges or you may suffer from low estrogen symptoms. 67 doesn't seem very high to me if your T levels are in that 3,000 range.

[bone]

Test level was 1430.Im just off cycle and pinning 200mgs on a cruze.At what point do you know for sure its a problem?

[kubes]

Test level was 1430.Im just off cycle and pinning 200mgs on a cruze.At what point do you know for sure its a problem?

Gotcha your right on the cuff then. How long have you been back at the 200 ew? Your estrogen could still drop if it hasn't been long?

[bone]

Been off for 5-6 wks.Npp,prop.Think I should just run the adex for a couple wks?Bout to go back on,nothing crazy mild test and deca.

[kubes]

Been off for 5-6 wks.Npp,prop.Think I should just run the adex for a couple wks?Bout to go back on,nothing crazy mild test and deca.

If you are jumping back on you may as well start the ai then your estrogen obviously will go up some

[bone]

Got it.Thx for all the quick replies Kubes.

[kubes]

Got it.Thx for all the quick replies Kubes.

You got it buddy are you running adex or aromasin?

[bone]

I use adex.I'll run .50mg m-w-f for 3-4wks.Do you think I should run it the whole time Im on.I never have.

[kubes]

I use adex.I'll run .5mg m-w-f for 3-4wks.Do you think I should run it the whole time Im on.I never have.

I always do. I didnt use to and then ran labs and my estro was almost 400 with no symptoms. Why not just run .25 eod? It will keep you leaner too

[bone]

Meant .50 My dr had me on .25 with the whole m-w-f routine for 3 wks one time so I just kinda rolled with that.I suppose I could cut my tabs into 1/4's.I'll give that a shot for this run.I also run clomid 50mgs eod.

[kubes]

Meant .50 My dr had me on .25 with the whole m-w-f routine for 3 wks one time so I just kinda rolled with that.I suppose I could cut my tabs into 1/4's.I'll give that a shot for this run.I also run clomid 50mgs eod.

You are running clomid while on cycle? Why?

[bone]

I already know Im shut down,it's just for asthetics my man!It also helps with the baby batter!

[kubes]

I already know Im shut down,it's just for asthetics my man!It also helps with the baby batter!

Hcg would be a much better choice as it will directly stimulate the testies mimicking lh function. Clomid is not going to stimulate lh production during the administration of exogenous testosterone. It will serve more as a weak serm

[bone]

Idk Kubes?My dr perscribes both and says they do the exact same thing and both stimulate the nads.I suppose she could be wrong!Im def open to suggestion.

[kubes]

Idk Kubes?My dr perscribes both and says they do the exact same thing and both stimulate the nads.I suppose she could be wrong!Im def open to suggestion.

Clomid would help out with fertility in the event you were relying on endogenous testosterone production but i have never seen clinical data to support it stimulating the testies during the administration of exogenous testosterone. Hcg would directly stimulate the testies though as it mimics lh production. During administration of testosterone your lh function will almost cease as part of the negative feed back loop

[bone]

Almost cease!! Its undetectable on my labs! Has been for years.I see where this is going,one more spot to pin.Not that I dont already pin my belly its just alotta stuff!I dont know if Im askimg to much but do you think you can give me some sort of protocall?

[kubes]

Sure brother hcg at 200-250 iu 2 x ew is usually enough to maintain testicular function