Recipes

[slick]

Originally posted by heavyiron

Several years ago, I learned how to convert pellets into injectible tren because my boyfriend (bless him) was useless with this kind of thing. I'd much rather he (and all of you) get the proper knowledge and a safe product than to buy from a UG that is probably converting in the bathroom sink. Once I found out how to get my hands on powders, I realized how easy and cost effective it is to convert them.

All the items needed to convert powders to injectable are easily procured online. Remember that you don't have to buy your supplies from a company that caters to bodybuilders. (these companies are usually more expensive because they know what you're using their stuff for.)

The only exception I've found is www.researchsupply.net (http://www.researchsupply.net). They have have bulk and retail pricing and are reliable. Remember that you can also buy from chemical supply houses, medical, and science supply online. Do a Google search for "science supplies" and you'll be surprised at what you can find for a very reasonable price.

Chemicals you'll need for almost every conversion:

BB: Benzyl benzoate
BA: Benzyl alcohol (make sure that you do not exceed 5% BA for any of the conversions)

For Liquid Orals:
PEG 300: Polyethylene Glycol

Oils:
Sesame oil is good, and so is grape see oil. Stay away from the thicker oils, and make sure you don't have an alergy to the oil you're using (walnut, for example).

Supplies:
Some companies sell sterile vials with the stopper and crimper already on them. This is good if you have only a small amount to make or only convert every once in a while. Remember to use a venting needle with these when adding your final conversion to them. (transfer air out while putting the product in.)


Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc or bigger
18 or 20 gauge needles to vent and to transfer
Vials/beakers/glass measuring cups for mixing - heat proof
Sterile Vials or vials/stoppers/crimper for your product
sterile filters - whatman or equivelent
plastic or glass mixing spoons/swizzles. No metal
shallow pan to sterilize vials and to heat up mixtures


These recipes are not mine. They are courtesy of KIAN PHILLIPS -- BSc/SpSc - CPT (http://www.liverpool0151.co.uk/kian) . I have made almost all of the recipes that follow except Winstrol. I also have not capped any powders, but the recipes are here. If you have questions about these recipes that I cannot answer, I'll contact Kian and try to get the answer for you.

Good Luck!


The procedures for each conversion are almost identical but the measurements differ so pay close attention to this fact.


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Conversions and Information listed on this page:

Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -
Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -
Test Cypionate
Test Enanthate
Test Propionate
Trenbolone (non pellet form)
Winstrol (injectable)
Anadrol
Anavar
Armidex
Clomid
Dianabol
Femara
Nolvadex
Proviron
Winstrol (oral)
Capping Powders
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Test Enanthate

Powder: 5 grams
Produces: 20 ml @ 250 mg/ml

Requirements:

5 grams testosterone enanthate
15.25 ml sesame oil
Benzyl Alcohol 1ml 5% BA
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter
Procedure:

measure 5 grams of powder
place the powder in the vial
add BA to the vial
heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
gently shake the vial.
reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.
Test Enanthate

Powder: 10 grams
Produces: 40 ml @ 250 mg/ml

Requirements:

10 grams testosterone enanthate
Benzyl Alcohol 2ml 5% BA
30.5 ml sesame oil
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter
Procedure:

measure 10 grams of powder
place the powder in the vial
add BA to the vial
heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
gently shake the vial.
reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.
Test Cypionate

Powder: 5 grams
Produces: 20 ml @ 250 mg/ml

Requirements:

5 grams testosterone cypionate
15.25 ml sesame oil
Benzyl Alcohol 1 ml 5% BA
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter
Procedure:

measure 5 grams of powder
place the powder in the vial
add BA to the vial
heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
gently shake the vial.
reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.
Test Cypionate

Powder: 10 grams
Produces: 40 ml @ 250 mg/ml

Requirements:

10 grams testosterone cypionate
30.5 ml sesame oil
Benzyl Alcohol 2 ml 5% BA
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter
Procedure:

measure 10 grams of powder
place the powder in the vial
add BA to the vial
heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
gently shake the vial.
reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.
Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -

Note: Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - is liquid at room temperature so use the following conversion: 1 ml of EQ = 1.18 grams

Powder: 5 grams
Produces: 25 ml @ 200 mg/ml

Requirements:

5 grams Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -
20.50 ml sesame oil
Benzyl Alcohol 0.75 ml 3% BA
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter
Procedure:

measure 5 grams of powder
place the powder in the vial
add BA to the vial
heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
gently shake the vial.
reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.
Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -

Note: Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - is liquid at room temperature so use the following conversion: 1 ml of EQ = 1.18 grams

Powder: 10 grams
Produces: 50 ml @ 200 mg/ml

Requirements:

10 grams Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -
41 ml sesame oil
Benzyl Alcohol 1.5 ml 3% BA
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter
Procedure:

measure 10 grams of powder
place the powder in the vial
add BA to the vial
heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
gently shake the vial.
reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.
Note: If you have more than the equivalent of 10 grams of Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , it is recommended that you do the conversion all at the same time to avoid having to measure and calculate 5 or 10 gram equivalents each time.


Test testosterone propionate

Powder: 5 grams
Produces: 50 ml @ 100 mg/ml

Requirements:

5 grams test testosterone propionate
36.25 ml sesame oil
Benzyl Alcohol 2.5 ml 5% BA
Benzyl Benzoate 7.5 ml 15% BB
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter
Procedure:

measure 5 grams of powder
place the powder in the vial
add BA to the vial
add BB to the vial
heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
gently shake the vial.
reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.
Test testosterone propionate

Powder: 10 grams
Produces: 100 ml @ 100 mg/ml

Requirements:

10 grams test testosterone propionate
72.5 ml sesame oil
Benzyl Alcohol 5 ml 5% BA
Benzyl Benzoate 15 ml 15% BB
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter
Procedure:

measure 10 grams of powder
place the powder in the vial
add BA to the vial
add BB to the vial
heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
gently shake the vial.
reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.
Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -

Powder: 5 grams
Produces: 25 ml @ 200 mg/ml

Requirements:

5 grams Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - - powder
18.75 ml sesame oil
Benzyl Alcohol 1.25 ml 5% BA
Benzyl Benzoate 1.25 ml 5% BB
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter
Procedure:

measure 5 grams of powder
place the powder in the vial
add BA to the vial
add BB to the vial
heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
gently shake the vial.
reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.
Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -

Powder: 10 grams
Produces: 50 ml @ 200 mg/ml

Requirements:

10 grams Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - - powder
37.5 ml sesame oil
Benzyl Alcohol 2.5 ml 5% BA
Benzyl Benzoate 2.5 ml 5% BB
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter
Procedure:

measure 10 grams of powder
place the powder in the vial
add BA to the vial
add BB to the vial
heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
gently shake the vial.
reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.
trenbolone

Note: this conversion is not for the pellet form

Powder: 5 grams
Produces: 50 ml @ 100 mg/ml

Requirements:

5 grams trenbolone
43.75 ml sesame oil
Benzyl Alcohol 2.5 ml 5% BA
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter
Procedure:

measure 5 grams of powder
place the powder in the vial
add BA to the vial
heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
gently shake the vial.
reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.
trenbolone

Note: this conversion is not for the pellet form

Powder: 10 grams
Produces: 100 ml @ 100 mg/ml

Requirements:

10 grams trenbolone
87.5 ml sesame oil
Benzyl Alcohol 5 ml 5% BA
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter
Procedure:

measure 10 grams of powder
place the powder in the vial
add BA to the vial
heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
gently shake the vial.
reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
take the other syringe with 2ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.
Winstrol

Note: there is a tendency to ruin the product during conversion so only use one gram at a time

Powder: 1 gram
Produces: 20 ml at 50 mg/ml

Requirements:

1 gram of winstrol
one 20 ml glass vial or larger
one 20 ml sterile glass vial or larger
one 0.45 Whatman sterile syringe filter
two 5 or 10 ml syringes
two 3 ml syringes
three 18 or 20 gauge pins
two 22 gauge pins
17 ml of sesame seed oil
0.2 ml of benzyl alcohol
2 ml of Mr.T super solvent
Procedure:

measure one gram of powder
draw out 2 ml of the Mr. T super solvent using one of the 3 ml syringes
place the measured powder in the open vial and add the solvent
place the rubber stopper back on the vial and put one of the 20 gauge pins in the stopper
place the vial in a small pan and place the pan on the eye of the stove
heat until the powder dissolves into a liquid (usually around 239.8-242 degrees F)
turn off the heat and let it cool down in the pan to room temperature (approx. 15 minutes)
heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven until it reaches a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will be necessary to use slightly more oil than is required as all of it will not be able to be utilised)
draw out 0.2 ml of benzyl alcohol (this will account for 1% of the solution so make sure the measurement is correct)
add the benzyl alcohol to the solution in the vial and shake very gently
draw out the oil with the 10 ml syringe (make sure the oil has cooled down somewhat before doing this)
add 15 ml of the oil (saving 2 ml for later) to the solution in the vial and shake very gently Note: If the winstrol begins to clump back up, reheat the solution (place in a pan, put the pan on the eye of the stove and heat until it liquefies again) and allow it to cool down slowly
place one of the 18 gauge pins in the sterile, unopened vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
draw out the solution using the other 10 ml syringe, attach to the filter, and slowly press the solution out into the sterile vial
use the previously saved 2 ml of oil in the other syringe and run it through the filter to ensure that all the Winstrol passes through
after the filtering process, leave the pin in the sterile vial and remove the filter
place the vial in a pan and place the pan on the eye of the stove
heat for 15-20 minutes, remove from heat, and let it cool down to room temperature (approx. 15 minutes)
The finished solution will be light-gold in colour.
Ensure that you follow the guidelines carefully for this conversion.

For conversions larger than one gram, refer to the powder conversion calculator at the top of this page.


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POWDER TO LIQUID ORAL CONVERSIONS:


Anadrol
Powder: per 1 gram of Oxymetholone
Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml

Requirements:

1 gram of Oxymetholone powder
1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
8.4 ml of PEG 300
10.5 ml 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
Anavar
Powder: per 1 gram of Oxandrolone
Produces: Highest concentration made - 20 mg/ml

Requirements:

1 gram of Oxandrolone powder
1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
9.8 ml of PEG 300
39.2 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
Armidex
Powder: per 1 gram of Anastrozole
Produces: Highest concentration made - 5 mg/ml

Requirements:

1 gram of Anastrozole powder
1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
19.9 ml of PEG 300
179.1 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
Clomid
Powder: per 1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate
Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml

Requirements:

1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate
1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
7.6 ml of Glycerol
11.3 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
Clomid
Powder: per 1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate
Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml

Requirements:

1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate
1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
8.4 ml of PEG 600
10.5 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
Dianabol
Powder: per 1 gram of Methandrostenolone
Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml

Requirements:

1 gram of Methandrostenolone powder
1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
19 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
Femara
Powder: per 1 gram of Letrozole
Produces: Highest concentration made - 5 mg/ml

Requirements:

1 gram of Letrozole powder
1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
19.9 ml of PEG 300
179.1 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
Nolvadex
Powder: per 1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate
Produces: Highest concentration made - 20 mg/ml

Requirements:

1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate
1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
19.6 ml of Glycerol
29.4 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
Nolvadex
Powder: per 1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate
Produces: Highest concentration made - 20 mg/ml

Requirements:

1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate
1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
9.8 ml of PEG 600
39.2 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
Proviron
Powder: per 1 gram of Mesterolone
Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml

Requirements:

1 gram of Mesterolone
1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
8.4 ml of PEG 300
10.5 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
Winstrol
Powder: per 1 gram of Stanozolol
Produces: Highest concentration made - 25 mg/ml

Requirements:

1 gram of Stanozolol
1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
7.8 ml of PEG 300
31.2 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
For all of the above conversions requiring PEG and 190 Proof Alcohol, use the following procedure:

place a sufficient amount of water in a pan and place on the stove
remove from heat when the water reaches boiling temperature
place the powder and the PEG in the beaker
immerse the beaker in the pan of water so that the water is level with the top of the contents of the beaker
gently swirl or stir the contents of the beaker until the solution is clear (reheat the water if necessary)
remove the beaker from the water
allow the PEG to cool down
slowly add the 190 Proof Alcohol to the mixture
gently stir until fully mixed
For all of the above conversions where PEG is not required, use the following procedure:

mix powder and 190 Proof Alcohol in the beaker
gently swirl or stir the contents of the beaker until the solution is clear
the majority of powders which do not require PEG will dissolve readily but for those that are troublesome, refer to the heating procedure as outlined above
In the event that 190 Proof Grain Alcohol (EverClear) is unavailable, then substitute Bacardi 151.

Flavoured oils can also be added to mask the taste if that is your preference.

[unclem]

very good reference guide pyes.

[slick]

Hey uncleM what's up bro...welcome :)

[starquest maniac]

WOW! This is interesting as hell guys. Seems simple enough. Just kinda blows me away. Never had home brew before. Odds are I would make it before trying someone else's though.

[4thAD]

Would be cool to see some finaplix conversion recipes on that list as well. I guess as long as you removed the methyl cellulose binders before starting the recipe it would make no difference. If there is a difference, could some one correct me?

[inhiding]

When I make my gear I do it a little different

I take a small sauce pan with about 2 inches of water in it and start it to boil.

Then I take a 150 ml beaker and put my powder in it. Then I add my ba and bb to the powder in the beaker, and place the beaker in the boiling water. I heat the powder until it is liquid. Continually stiring the mixture, either by picking up the beaker and swirling it, or using a glass stir rod. The mixture will melt and if you look close you will see swirls in the mixture. Keep heating it till the mixture is clear with no swirls in it. Then I measure out my oil in a large syringe and I just add it to the beaker. You never take it off the heat, time it so that when your mixture has no swirls you can add the oil. You will again now see swirls in your mixture, continue heating again till there are no swirls. This whole process up to this point will take about 10 minutes of heating. Now that the oil is added and there are no swirls let it cool. Draw it all up into a large syringe (I use a 60ml) and run it through a whatman .45um filter. If you ever have tried this your forearm will be killing you after about 10mls. A trick to filtering is to put the 60ml syringe into a caulk gun. Dont squeeze to hard though because you will blow out the whatman. But the caulk gun works real well.

The oven thing is over kill in my opinion. The ba and bb will sterilize the solution as well as preserve it in the vial. The whatman will take out any impurities also. I have done this several dozen times and never had a problem.

You can get filtered oils but you will pay more for them, and why your going to filter it yourself with the whatman anyway. My buddy who taught me to brew uses olive oil from the supermarket. I personally use grape seed. You can get everything you need from Medical and Lab Supplies | Research Laboratory Supply Inc. (http://www.researchsupply.net)

This is just the way I do it not trying to say your way is wrong just my way.

[slick]

When I make my gear I do it a little different

I take a small sauce pan with about 2 inches of water in it and start it to boil.

Then I take a 150 ml beaker and put my powder in it. Then I add my ba and bb to the powder in the beaker, and place the beaker in the boiling water. I heat the powder until it is liquid. Continually stiring the mixture, either by picking up the beaker and swirling it, or using a glass stir rod. The mixture will melt and if you look close you will see swirls in the mixture. Keep heating it till the mixture is clear with no swirls in it. Then I measure out my oil in a large syringe and I just add it to the beaker. You never take it off the heat, time it so that when your mixture has no swirls you can add the oil. You will again now see swirls in your mixture, continue heating again till there are no swirls. This whole process up to this point will take about 10 minutes of heating. Now that the oil is added and there are no swirls let it cool. Draw it all up into a large syringe (I use a 60ml) and run it through a whatman .45um filter. If you ever have tried this your forearm will be killing you after about 10mls. A trick to filtering is to put the 60ml syringe into a caulk gun. Dont squeeze to hard though because you will blow out the whatman. But the caulk gun works real well.

The oven thing is over kill in my opinion. The ba and bb will sterilize the solution as well as preserve it in the vial. The whatman will take out any impurities also. I have done this several dozen times and never had a problem.

You can get filtered oils but you will pay more for them, and why your going to filter it yourself with the whatman anyway. My buddy who taught me to brew uses olive oil from the supermarket. I personally use grape seed. You can get everything you need from Medical and Lab Supplies | Research Laboratory Supply Inc. (http://www.researchsupply.net)

This is just the way I do it not trying to say your way is wrong just my way.

you mentioned that bb will sterilize the solution, this is incorrect....bb only hold the compound together. ba is the sterilizer.

another thing is you have to make sure your solution never goes above, say....275 degrees....if you use the process you mentioned.

besides those 2 things....it is a very effective way to homebrew.

[inhiding]

Your right the bb is what suspends (for lack of a better word) the hormone in the oil so it doesnt re solidify. But I dont think 275 degrees will degrade the hormone much, I have actually cooked a batch of a custom blend I made on time of Test E, Masteron, and EQ in the microwave after the solution crashed after a couple of days. After microwaving for a minute the oil was just starting to boil. I wasnt going to throw it away since Masteron is 12 bucks a gram so I shot it. To my surprise my balls still shrunk up and I had a great 20 week cycle off it.

[inhiding]

I just want to say, its cool that this site has a homebrew forum for us junkies to swap tricks of the trade. A lot of sites stay away from the homebrew thing.

So thanks

Now I have to go heat up my spoon! LOL!

[slick]

Your right the bb is what suspends (for lack of a better word) the hormone in the oil so it doesnt re solidify. But I dont think 275 degrees will degrade the hormone much, I have actually cooked a batch of a custom blend I made on time of Test E, Masteron, and EQ in the microwave after the solution crashed after a couple of days. After microwaving for a minute the oil was just starting to boil. I wasnt going to throw it away since Masteron is 12 bucks a gram so I shot it. To my surprise my balls still shrunk up and I had a great 20 week cycle off it.

yeah bud, i think you misread my post....I said it was probably not a good idea to go over 275 degrees. I think a good rule of thumb is between 212 and 275 degrees.

when you said you put it in the microwave and it just started to boil....your gear was only around 212 degrees. The boiling point is 212 degrees and if it just started to boil...it was not far from that number. which is ideal and why your gear worked.

[TexasAQHA]

I would not go much over 212, it will not hurt the hormone but you will lose less of it if you do not go much over the Boiling point. You really gain nothing by hitting higher temps.

[slick]

I would not go much over 212, it will not hurt the hormone but you will lose less of it if you do not go much over the Boiling point. You really gain nothing by hitting higher temps.

that is why i heat my oil separate from the ba/bb/powder solution.

[Thunder]

5% ba is high in my mind Pharm compaines don't use that.2% is just fine. Aslo Bb helps keep the product in depot so it leeches into the system.

[slick]

5% ba is high in my mind Pharm compaines don't use that.2% is just fine. Aslo Bb helps keep the product in depot so it leeches into the system.

I agree....and ba is one of those chemicals you want to limit if you can as is it harsh.

[smurfnu469]

Nice info:)

[pinstripe yank]

That was a great read, nice run threw

[cjp847]

Go's to show u, u learn something new every day! Thanks for the info.

[skinney]

good day all!your bro skinney

[skinney]

love this shit!

[buckeye]

Ok ive been making own orals for a while i want to start brewing too but i want to cap my own vials only thin holding me back is after u run it threw filter. What do u do before u cap it wont bacteria get in during capping i want to have good shit and not fuck with anyone.

[basskiller]

most of those recipes are from Harvey balboner and not Kian.. he just neglected to give Harvey credit for them

[skinney]

hey havent seen any rec s for sust I assume its just like cyp or test e maybe lil bb for prop?

[gator-mclusky]

Great thread. Ive only done 2 conversions and the EQ came out great. The Primo Ace took many tries adding more alcohol, reheating etc. I wonder if adding the alcohol straight to the powder and in the pot of hot water like inhuman mentioned would have made it more soluble??????

[skinney]

hey whats wrong with cso love it!

[silntrunin]

Anyone interested in tbol conversion? Made a batch not long ago and fuckin love the shit. Have also made anadrol in the past and I use a slighty different approach as far as carriers. If there is an interest I will dig up my recipes and post. Some people don't like the extra injects but from my experience they are much more potent in injection form.

I'm a little sadistic I guess, I get off on brewing my own shit and injecting. lol

[PAiN]

Anyone interested in tbol conversion? Made a batch not long ago and fuckin love the shit. Have also made anadrol in the past and I use a slighty different approach as far as carriers. If there is an interest I will dig up my recipes and post. Some people don't like the extra injects but from my experience they are much more potent in injection form.

I'm a little sadistic I guess, I get off on brewing my own shit and injecting. lol

LOL

Yes definitely share them with us bro.

[jluc]

I made a batch of 100mg/mL TNE and i went through 6 damn filters!!! needless to say, i wont brew that anymore.. so i want to try to brew test suspension. does anyone have a good recipe for it?

[silntrunin]

Injectable Tbol recipe I made was 75mg/ml was basically a test to see how it would come out and it turned out just about perfect. I say just about because after about a week or so it didn't really crash but I did see signs of the starting to seperate. Nothing that a little warming up didn't clear up but the main thing for me is it was totally painless.

Because it was a test and my first time brewing that compound I only made 20ml. I didn't want to take the chance of fucking it up and losing all my powder so I made a small batch.

powder = 1.5gms
BA = .40ml which equals 2%
BB = 4 ml which equals 20%
Castor Oil = 11.33ml
EO = 3ml

I add the BA, BB and EO to the powder and warm til totally dissolved then I add the Castor oil and bake for 20 minutes at 175 degrees.
Gently swirling to make sure everything is totally mixed. I let it cool slighty and then run through a .22 filter.
I have been told that the EO isn't needed and I know some have a reaction to it but the recipe that I had actually called for a 50/50 mixture of EO and Castor oil. Not knowing if I would have a reaction with it I opted to go with half the amount of EO and it seemed to be just fine. I had absolutely no reaction to the EO and it thinned the castor oil enough to be able to pin with a 25g.

I will be experimenting with this some more except I will try GSO as it is a thinner oil and leave out the EO. But I believe the purpose of the castor oil is its thickness helps keep the powder suspended and not crash. But I will post my next test batch as well in case anyone has issues with EO.

I'll dig up the anadrol recipe I used and post that one also.

Happy brewing my friends. This recipe will yield about 20ml at 75mg/ml

[silntrunin]

Seems like most of the recipes for orals are for taking them as an oral liquid, please correct me if I'm wrong. I have had great success making orals into injectables. My personal experience with them is nothing short of amazing. I can honestly say once I master the conversions, taking orals will be a thing of the past for me. But then again I don't mind the injections.

[bigken]

very good guide, thx anyway

[BuryMeBig]

Injectable Tbol recipe I made was 75mg/ml was basically a test to see how it would come out and it turned out just about perfect. I say just about because after about a week or so it didn't really crash but I did see signs of the starting to seperate. Nothing that a little warming up didn't clear up but the main thing for me is it was totally painless.

Because it was a test and my first time brewing that compound I only made 20ml. I didn't want to take the chance of fucking it up and losing all my powder so I made a small batch.

powder = 1.5gms
BA = .40ml which equals 2%
BB = 4 ml which equals 20%
Castor Oil = 11.33ml
EO = 3ml

I add the BA, BB and EO to the powder and warm til totally dissolved then I add the Castor oil and bake for 20 minutes at 175 degrees.
Gently swirling to make sure everything is totally mixed. I let it cool slighty and then run through a .22 filter.
I have been told that the EO isn't needed and I know some have a reaction to it but the recipe that I had actually called for a 50/50 mixture of EO and Castor oil. Not knowing if I would have a reaction with it I opted to go with half the amount of EO and it seemed to be just fine. I had absolutely no reaction to the EO and it thinned the castor oil enough to be able to pin with a 25g.

I will be experimenting with this some more except I will try GSO as it is a thinner oil and leave out the EO. But I believe the purpose of the castor oil is its thickness helps keep the powder suspended and not crash. But I will post my next test batch as well in case anyone has issues with EO.

I'll dig up the anadrol recipe I used and post that one also.

Happy brewing my friends. This recipe will yield about 20ml at 75mg/ml

whats up brother howd you like that tbol with gso? you ever end up following through with it? was dam interested in seeing your anadrol recipe thats to bad fuk....

[K-Shyne]

That makes it sound easy....

[silntrunin]

whats up brother howd you like that tbol with gso? you ever end up following through with it? was dam interested in seeing your anadrol recipe thats to bad fuk....


Tbol with gso worked fine. Made it at 100mg/ml and it crashed a little after about a week but I reheated it at 212 for 20 minutes and its been fine since.

I'll dig up the anadrol recipe and post it if I haven't already.

[BuryMeBig]

Tbol with gso worked fine. Made it at 100mg/ml and it crashed a little after about a week but I reheated it at 212 for 20 minutes and its been fine since.

I'll dig up the anadrol recipe and post it if I haven't already.
Hell yea look forward to seeing what you've come up with. For your Tbol try using a mixture of sesame and MCT oil, 50/50 mix would probably be something you'd like, or Castor oil with MCT, drop the EO even lower if you'd like. Just mix that for a good while I bet you'd like it for sure. I like oil blends for sure its def. My thing haha. Cheers brotha. Enjoy

[Bigpolak]

Nice Thread. I just made Test E and EQ for the first time and it turned out awesome and clear as can be and painless.

[coalminer78]

Thanks for share heavy iron know his shit

[hkroids]

Is it really good to use BA 5%?

[richiquick79]

I used the test prop recipe on this page to the letter, first time came out perfect!, Same with the tren ace recipe, which I was nervous about but again perfect, thanks to everyone for your help. Saved a ton of money and have some great gear I can trust!

[richiquick79]

I also have a bit of test c I'm about to brew up soon, can I go up to 300mg with no problems if I do my numbers right?

[Amber Jones]

good post, but can someone tell me which should use with EQ togrther?

[Homebrewing Steroids]

good introduction!

[coalminer78]

Most recipes have ba at 5%...that is way high use 1 to 2 %

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[CrazySteroids]

NO AROMASIN ORAL LIQUID CONVERSIONS RECIPES ?

[old fart]

Wow, tons of great recipes...

[Ironcycles17]

I see a lot of people using syringes. I am interested in the hand pump process. Any info on that? I'm hoping to get the entire list of supplies from reading threads and stickies but any quick help is appreciated. Thanks in advance

[USMC51683]

I'm getting ready to do my first home brew. Can anyone give me recipe for sus 250mg per ml useing cotton seed oil and oral to liquid of aromasin ?

[SimpleAddar]

Would love how to make clen liquid

[Chicago]

Many of these formulas are flawed, for example:

Test Cypionate

Powder: 5 grams
Produces: 20 ml @ 250 mg/ml

Requirements:


5 grams testosterone cypionate
15.25 ml sesame oil
Benzyl Alcohol 1 ml 5% BA


5 g TC (density = 1.1 g/cm3 thus displacing 5.5 ml of volume)
15.25 ml OIL
1 ml BA

The end volume equates to 21.75 ml at a concentration of 229.88 mg/ml.

Trenbolone

Powder: 10 grams
Produces: 100 ml @ 100 mg/ml

Requirements:


10 grams trenbolone
87.5 ml sesame oil
Benzyl Alcohol 5 ml 5% BA


Interestingly this formula doesn't even provide a ester so what, it works with any ester or is it actually for Tren with no ester?
If it's TREN ACE density the is 1.18

The end volume of this formula results in 95.87 mg/ml for Tren Ace.


One final thought, there'a enough BA in these formulas to kill head lice and although 1% is the norm up 10% isn't unheard of. (https://books.google.com/books?id=Hkm3BgAAQBAJ&pg=PA99&lpg=PA99&dq=parenteral+benzyl+alcohol&source=bl&ots=pkvqgHssQ6&sig=lNttdsjL9-6jmtCHTz8JsofUkGk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQ-tKw2L7ZAhURS2MKHdjkBJY4ChDoAQhJMAY#v=onepage&q=parenteral%20benzyl%20alcohol&f=false)

[Jbone90]

Can anyone help me with a liquid prami recipe have been doing tons or research but can't seem to find one on prami?
Thanks

[BornFat]

useful and handy information

[croc]

:avatar128094_2:

[BornFat]

interesting read

[Ceg7100]

Can you multiply these recipes for larger amounts - say instead of 5g someone was going to do 15g would one just multiply the amounts of each by 3?

[BOP_79R]

Can you multiply these recipes for larger amounts - say instead of 5g someone was going to do 15g would one just multiply the amounts of each by 3?

That's how math works

[Greasey58]

This is a great read. Great information

[Chilidog]

New trade�� all great info thanks everyone

[Greasey58]

This is a great read. Makes me want to home brew. Definitely going to look into it. I'll have to research the top sources and supplies.

[Mr Myagi]

Can you use any thing besides booze in the mixtures. I do not touch it.

[Hnausa]

Can you use any thing besides booze in the mixtures. I do not touch it.


To make liquid orals just add powder to olive oil and mix :) That easy yes.

[Hnausa]

This is a great read. Makes me want to home brew. Definitely going to look into it. I'll have to research the top sources and supplies.


Anabolic-Hormones is a top notch supplier here. Go look at their forum :)

[rostam]

To make liquid orals just add powder to olive oil and mix :) That easy yes.

If doing that I would add some preservative to the mix like vitamin E.

[rostam]

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[jersey devil]

Welcome!!!

[Cwolf82506]

Great info. Thank u all

[Cwolf82506]

Very good info, thank u all. Gonna buy some equipment and get started asap. Any recommendation on which site to buy raws? Pureraws or purplep? Anyone more legit thwn thw others? And info or insight would be appreciated. Ty

[Hnausa]

If doing that I would add some preservative to the mix like vitamin E.


There's no need for that especially if you mix it up a week at a time.

[Andro308]

I noticed on the first post that the BA is at 5% which seems high to me. Normally i use 1%. also there is no BB??? what is the reason for no BB. Does BB cause Pain?

thanks

[Steele7]

Panthers 19

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[Steele7]

Thanks so much

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[Bosquestrength]

Question: why 5% BB and BA other places I've seen are 2%?

[Mr Myagi]

Lube me up too. Thx

[Mr Myagi]

To make liquid orals just add powder to olive oil and mix :) That easy yes.

No peg?

[THX]

Question: why 5% BB and BA other places I've seen are 2%?

5% is a lot. Even 2% is to much.

[anomily88]

Great info

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[rostam]

No peg?

No. you can add some vitamin e as preservative. But this will be a suspension not a solution so it must be shaken each time before dosing.

[Zanqueta]

why no bb in the recipes?

[Bronz solo]

Good Evening/Morning/Afternoon Brothers!!!

Anybody know if d-bol and t-bol would have the same messurments?

[THX]

Good Evening/Morning/Afternoon Brothers!!! Anybody know if d-bol and t-bol would have the same messurments? Do you mean if you can use the same recipe? Yeah you can. I dissolved it in ethanol long time ago. Don't remember the concentration though.

[Bronz solo]

im new to brewing so the calculations are kinda confusing because I was looking on making tbol at 50mg per ML and a lot of the other recipe guides don't have tbol

[Bronz solo]

whats a good discrete site to buy from for equipment?

[Bronz solo]

Any body know Aramosin/Exemastane 25mg per ML Liquid suspension recipe? Thanks in advance brothers!!!

[jukebox]

Hey guys, after a recipe for oral M1T. Can any body please help?

[Oldskool]

Guys it wou lk d be a better idea to make your own thread if u have questions.

This thread is for recipes only and not as many ppl are gonna see your question here.

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[Bronz solo]

Guys it wou lk d be a better idea to make your own thread if u have questions.

This thread is for recipes only and not as many ppl are gonna see your question here.

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Got it. thank you!

[HB4LIFE]

Nice Thread. I just made Test E and EQ for the first time and it turned out awesome and clear as can be and painless.

Awesome bro! Did you use the recipe listed in this thread?

[Gainzvillemayor]

I got to quit being a bitch and just try this shit

[JSzaf]

Can you ask about blends? I am beginning my own brewing and have general recipes. Did good on first try. Also looking for a tren hex recipe. Raw is expensive and don't want to mess it up. Thanks

[Gonzo]

Love it!!! Knowledge is power!!!

[MoreGains]

Very cool post and informative as well. First forum I've been on with info on home brewing. Awesome!!!