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toppjimie
03-12-2014, 01:34 PM
The use of a glucosamine supplement orally does not help in decreasing knee pain or lessen cartilage deterioration among people with chronic knee pain, says a new study.
Glucosamine is the second most commonly-used natural product to treat joint pain and arthritis. Previous reports have tallied global sales of the supplement at more than $2 billion. Chondroitin is another popular product.
The double-blind, placebo-controlled trial by researchers at the University of Arizona is published in Arthritis & Rheumatology.
The researchers say its the first study to investigate whether a glucosamine supplement helps with knee pain, prevents the worsening of cartilage damage or improves bone marrow lesions – which are thought to be the source of pain in those with osteoarthritis.
Osteoarthritis affects an estimated three million people, which amounts to roughly one in 10 Canadians, according to the Arthritis Society.
Dr. C. Kent Kwoh enrolled 201 people with mild to moderate pain in one or both knees in his study. The participants, aged 35 to 65, were recruited from physician offices and the University of Pittsburgh Arthritis Registry.
They were split into two groups:
Those treated daily with 1500 mg of glucosamine hydrochloride in a 16-oz bottle of diet lemonade.
Those treated with a placebo.
During a 24-week period, the participants were followed up with phone calls every four weeks. At the end of that period, they all underwent an MRI to assess the cartilage damage in their knees.
Researchers assessed both groups on four things:
knee pain.
degradation of cartilage.
bone marrow lesions.
the excretion of CTX-11 in urine.
Researchers discovered that there was no difference in any of those characteristics between the group that took the glucosamine and the group that had the placebo.
The urinary excretion of C-telopeptdes of type II collagen (CTX-11) is a predictor of cartilage destruction. Researchers found that there was no decrease in that either.
“Our study found no evidence that drinking a glucosamine supplement reduced knee cartilage damage, relieved pain, or improved function in individuals with chronic knee pain,” concluded Dr. Kwoh in his study.
The study was funded by The National Institute of Arthritis, Musculoskeletal and Skin Diseases, the Beverage Institute for Health & Wellness and The Coca-Cola Company, which provided the lemonade.

Rooroo
03-12-2014, 02:29 PM
This pisses me off a lot !! My mother who is turning seventy this year swore by this garbage for a while before I think she realized that she was just overly exited for something to take the pain away in her old knees . She wanted me to start taking for my elbows and knee pain but I passed .
I should offer her 50 mg a deca every ten days or so .

PAiN
03-12-2014, 08:56 PM
Very interesting.

I have been using it for years. If I miss a few days I can tell a difference.

Khem
03-12-2014, 09:41 PM
Glucosamine + MSM is what is supposed to be best.. To that point, even my grandpa could tell the difference in what he was taking before he passed.

To my knowledge though, there are better things out there that I would take before glucosamine entered my mind.

PAiN
03-12-2014, 09:56 PM
Glucosamine + MSM is what is supposed to be best.. To that point, even my grandpa could tell the difference in what he was taking before he passed.

To my knowledge though, there are better things out there that I would take before glucosamine entered my mind.

Yep that's what I use. It works great for me.



What would you use Khem?

Khem
03-12-2014, 10:02 PM
High dose turmeric.. 2400-4500 mg/day depending on severity and what you're using it for. It's an intense antioxidant, which has been studied to even reverse cancers in some situations, as well as anti-inflammatory, but also blood thinner, and few other uses that I can't recall immediately. It's so good that it gets rid of inflammation that causes crohns, and IBS if you can believe it. I've recommended it to several people with IBS, including my father, and a few brothers on the boards. They have subsequently seen it vanish. My sister uses it for her arthritis(has had ACL and something else repaired in the same knee) and was skeptical, but after a few weeks she started singing its praises. I take it for antioxidant, I don't have any ailments.

Anyone with any issues pertaining to these can do some reading on turmeric, it might sound like corporate kool-aid but the studies all support it.


It's cheap as balls on puritanpride.com

hunkstrum
03-13-2014, 02:23 AM
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?s=glucosamine Here is a list of blog posts that people might find interesting. This is one of my favorite sites. It's also heavily biased against homeopathy. But everything is written by lettered professionals.

masteratarms
03-13-2014, 05:09 PM
yes! and also people underdose this, the effective dose is somewhere around 4000mg a day and most people do not take near that, but I would also go with some other options before really sticking with glucosamine