Critique my next cycle

[Asps91]

Hi guys,

looking into doing my next cycle within a few weeks. In total i have done around 5-6 cycles. The most i have ever used would be up to around 500mg test 400deca. I am around 16% body fat at 230lbs 5.78ft and have not cycled for around 8 months.

This time around i am planning to run:

week 1-13 250mg pw of test e
week 1-13 600mg tren e
week 3-13 1000iu of hcg
standard 4 week pct of nolva and clomid

i have exemestane on hand and trying to get my hands on some cabergoline.

you guys bother throwing in some masteron ethenate at 200mg per week for 10 weeks? Would you throw anything else in or add or remove anything? Where would you work in the exemestane?

Thanks guys!

[animal87]

You mean hcg 1000iu divided up in the week right? 200mg of mast. wouldnt do much imo.

[Asps91]

Yea will probally just run 500iu every 4 days. To keep it simple

[wook]

That's a lot of tren for a first timer... I would drop the tren down to 400, up the test to at least 500 add some oral like Winstrol for 1st 6 weeks. That is a great Spring cycle that I think you will enjoy. Mast at 16% bf wont help you much even at higher doses than the 200 you mentioned. High tren/ low test is more of an advanced cycle after you know how you react to tren. Tren can be nasty, so I would start at 400/week split into 2 doses. If your an HCG guy during cycle, that's fine too and then normal PCT as stated. I doubt you will need the caber, but it's good to have in the stash just in case. Just my opinion, best of luck!

[PEPrep]

Agreed, mast at less than 400mg is a waste I would say. I prefer it at 600mg a week for optimal results. The cycle looks fine to me. Personally I would up the test but with the tren I think you will be happy still.

[kubes]

You can probably get by with the hcg dosed at 250 iu 2 x ew week and start the aromasin at 12.5 mg Ed and adjust from there as needed

[Asps91]

Willing to take this advice onboard however wouldnt running more test than tren result in higher chance of heavy sides. I hope i react well to tren.... Have had no real bad sides from any other compounds apart from a little back acne.

[Clark Kent]

13 wks of tren at 600 mgs? I would go nuts! I have never done the enth because Im concerned the side will take to long to subside! after 6-7 weeks of ace im at my wits end! I like the fact I can stop and Im almost instantly more head strong within 24-48 hrs. Nothing works quit like it though! Good luck man keep us posted.

[kubes]

Willing to take this advice onboard however wouldnt running more test than tren result in higher chance of heavy sides. I hope i react well to tren.... Have had no real bad sides from any other compounds apart from a little back acne.

As long as you keep your estrogen in check you shouldn't have heavy sides from test at a higher dose. Say 500 test ew and 400 Tren

[Asps91]

13 wks of tren at 600 mgs? I would go nuts! I have never done the enth because Im concerned the side will take to long to subside! after 6-7 weeks of ace im at my wits end! I like the fact I can stop and Im almost instantly more head strong within 24-48 hrs. Nothing works quit like it though! Good luck man keep us posted.

haha. By the time the tren starts doing its thing we are lookimg at weeks 3-4 anyhow so hopefully i can last out the cycle. What do you mean by wits end? Is it mentally stressing? Does it take its toll on your body?

[Clark Kent]

Its puts you on edge to say the least! Friends, family, co workers you name it they will annoy the shit out of you! You have to remember to keep calm and not snap! Just remember that while on tren its not the rest of the world thats fucked up its your head so take alot of deep breaths I have even taken valium while on it. Gets you jacked up or lean and mean!

[wook]

Willing to take this advice onboard however wouldnt running more test than tren result in higher chance of heavy sides. I hope i react well to tren.... Have had no real bad sides from any other compounds apart from a little back acne.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about the sides of 500 mg test... The tren is what is going to cause sides, especially for a first timer running 600 mg's... The cycle I suggested is a great 10 week cycle that will let you grasp how you will react to tren... Tren is the best, but it is a different breed, bro! There is a lot of good advice on this board... You should read back through some the posts regarding tren. Even advanced users have a hard time with it... It really messes with my mind, more than anything. I get paranoid about my health, life, job, etc... It's brutal and on top of that, I never sleep when on... That being said, the results are always second to none!

[Clark Kent]

Personally, I wouldn't worry about the sides of 500 mg test... The tren is what is going to cause sides, especially for a first timer running 600 mg's... The cycle I suggested is a great 10 week cycle that will let you grasp how you will react to tren... Tren is the best, but it is a different breed, bro! There is a lot of good advice on this board... You should read back through some the posts regarding tren. Even advanced users have a hard time with it... It really messes with my mind, more than anything. I get paranoid about my health, life, job, etc... It's brutal and on top of that, I never sleep when on... That being said, the results are always second to none!

bump to that!

[animal87]

Keep a check on your bp and stay hydrated on tren.

[Asps91]

Personally, I wouldn't worry about the sides of 500 mg test... The tren is what is going to cause sides, especially for a first timer running 600 mg's... The cycle I suggested is a great 10 week cycle that will let you grasp how you will react to tren... Tren is the best, but it is a different breed, bro! There is a lot of good advice on this board... You should read back through some the posts regarding tren. Even advanced users have a hard time with it... It really messes with my mind, more than anything. I get paranoid about my health, life, job, etc... It's brutal and on top of that, I never sleep when on... That being said, the results are always second to none!

what do you think about upping the test to 750mg a week with 400 tren?

[Asps91]

Keep a check on your bp and stay hydrated on tren.


Its a habit for me to drink around 3-4 litres a day so hydration is always in check. Also have a bp machine so can keep an eye through the cycle ;)

[Clark Kent]

what do you think about upping the test to 750mg a week with 400 tren?

Try 500mg test and 400 mgs tren? you can always increase if you feel the need.

[Asps91]

Ill give it a crack and see how i go. Im hoping to drop into the lower teens of bodyfat while maintaining my current weight of 230lbs.

[Asps91]

If i adjust my hcg to 500iu per week and stick to 12.5 aromasin per day would you start from week three or from the beginning?

[enrod]

what do you think about upping the test to 750mg a week with 400 tren?

I noticed when I ran my test higher than tren I flat out felt like shit. I will be running the low test higher tren this summer.


If i adjust my hcg to 500iu per week and stick to 12.5 aromasin per day would you start from week three or from the beginning?

I like 500iu pw throughout personally. Keeps the buddies alive.

[Asps91]

I noticed when I ran my test higher than tren I flat out felt like shit. I will be running the low test higher tren this summer.

This is what i keep reading. Thats why i came to the dosages i originally posted. Yes i dont know how i will react to tren however i thought it would be better trying to avoid these sides from the begining. Every case i read about using the low test high tren method report of reduced sides with all of the benefits.

[enrod]

They're brutal man. I ran 500mg test 300mg tren my first run with tren, and I swore I'd never run the shit again. Alot of articles sounded promising with less test, so I will for a second time, after 4 years, try tren again in the upcoming two months. Some people get on fine with it, never really know til you try.

[kubes]

If i adjust my hcg to 500iu per week and stick to 12.5 aromasin per day would you start from week three or from the beginning?

Right from the beginning is fine bro.. Keep in mind like these guys are telling you more isn't always better or often isn't. I like the idea of starting at 500 test ew 400 Tren ew and running hcg at 250 iu 2 x ew with the aromasin alongside

[xmuscle]

400-500mg test wk
400mg tren wk
any more then that ur just gonna have to many sides..

[Asps91]

Ok. So hopefully without any more audjustment haha:

(Maybe) week 1-6 winstrol 50mg pd
week 1-13 test e at 500mg pw
week 1-13 tren e at 400mg pw
aromasin at 12.5 pd
hcg at 500iu pw
standard pct starting 2 weeks from last injection for 4 weeks using clomid and nolva.

[Clark Kent]

You might fair better to run the winny week 7-13. Especially if your in a deficit. Shit will pep you right up and esthetically be much more happy. Just my 2 cents. I always love to run winn with tren at the end.

[BigPapa]

Also I think you will be better off running just clomid for PCT a lot of people say not to run nolva during PCT after running DECA or tren.

[Asps91]

Also I think you will be better off running just clomid for PCT a lot of people say not to run nolva during PCT after running DECA or tren.

Ill have a look into this. Thanks brother

[toppjimie]

Ok. So hopefully without any more audjustment haha:

(Maybe) week 1-6 winstrol 50mg pd
week 1-13 test e at 500mg pw
week 1-13 tren e at 400mg pw
aromasin at 12.5 pd
hcg at 500iu pw
standard pct starting 2 weeks from last injection for 4 weeks using clomid and nolva.

That looks better bro.You can adjust as needed depending on how its going and how your feeling.Good Luck brother

[Dont wanna be old]

EGH has accutane . This will take care of backacne . Shrinks your pores .
I wouldn't use any other orals if you take as it's had on your system .
Good luck with your cycle
DWBO

[Asps91]

So the aromasin i have are extreemly small and look near impossible to split, can i just down 25mg eod istead of 12.5 daily?

[TheTrain]

So the aromasin i have are extreemly small and look near impossible to split, can i just down 25mg eod istead of 12.5 daily?

Yes you can. I would also say run WInstrol the last 6 weeks of your cycle... I think you'll like the effect much better that way...my 2 cents