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Barbndr
06-11-2014, 08:55 PM
I've been on test for a few months now. I was running tren ace but I couldn't handle it so I came off. I've heard a lot about hcg and I'm going to start running it with my next cycle at 250iu 2x a week. I'm coming off the test for a while before I start my next cycle. I've heard that I can use hcg to rebound my testes production at a high dose. Is this true? Any input will be greatly appreciated.

kubes
06-11-2014, 09:13 PM
What exactly are you trying to do. Are you trying to come off everything and use the hcg or do you want to use the hcg alongside the test?

Barbndr
06-11-2014, 09:54 PM
I want to come off everything until I start my bulker.

Herc
06-11-2014, 11:38 PM
Be careful about going too high on the HCG shots. I get gyno really fast from HCG. Its almost like I just shot 1 gram of test, its crazy. I would start with 250-500iu 2x a week and evaluate. And yes HCG is awesome at getting you up and running, just don't stay on it too long.

kubes
06-12-2014, 12:04 AM
I want to come off everything until I start my bulker.

How long have you been on and how long before you want to come off?

Barbndr
06-12-2014, 01:08 AM
If I'm going to run 26 wks of test a deca next cycle should I run I hcg through out the whole cycle?

Barbndr
06-12-2014, 01:15 AM
I was on test700mg/deca500mg for 12wks with dbol 50mg right into test prop 700mg/tren ace 350mg for 8 wks. Now I'm on prop 350mg wk and I'll come off in 20 days. I realize now how stupid I was to run it like this after coming to the bop and learning a lot.

kubes
06-12-2014, 01:20 AM
Yes run the hcg your whole cycle to maintain testicular function. For now I would either run the power pct protocol or stay on another 4 weeks and run hcg alongside to jump start the testies before pct

Barbndr
06-12-2014, 11:58 AM
What's the power protocol?

kubes
06-12-2014, 12:24 PM
What's the power protocol?

It's a 30 day protocol using higher doses of hcg with nolvadex and Clomid as well to try to restart endogenous testosteron production. The biggest problem during pct is the fact that the testies have not been functioning during the administration of exogenous androgens. So jump starting them again is a way of looking at the protocol. Honestly this is why I prefer to just run my hcg during my cycles

Tekadori
06-12-2014, 01:00 PM
You just heard two schools of thought. Running it during the cycle and taking it at the end of your cycle. Once you decide on which way you want to try, make sure you are taking some AI along with it. Hcg is powerful and easily converts. I have heard and experienced positive results both ways and everyone is different.

Barbndr
06-12-2014, 03:52 PM
You just heard two schools of thought. Running it during the cycle and taking it at the end of your cycle. Once you decide on which way you want to try, make sure you are taking some AI along with it. Hcg is powerful and easily converts. I have heard and experienced positive results both ways and everyone is different.

I'm going to run it during my next cycle @ 250iu 2x a wk. I'm also going to run aromasin @ 12.5mg ed.

kubes
06-12-2014, 03:54 PM
I'm going to run it during my next cycle @ 250iu 2x a wk. I'm also going to run aromasin @ 12.5mg ed.

Good choice.... Aromasin is my AI of choice

Barbndr
06-12-2014, 04:34 PM
I'm going to do a hcg blast when I come of in 20 days then novla/clomid to level out. Definitely going to do it right next time

kubes
06-12-2014, 04:41 PM
I'm going to do a hcg blast when I come of in 20 days then novla/clomid to level out. Definitely going to do it right next time

Good luck brother keep us posted

Barbndr
06-13-2014, 03:06 PM
Good luck brother keep us posted

Will do bro! Thanks a ton.