need some advice brothers

[bronson]

I'm age 31. 3 cycles deep. Second one I kept it just test but ran it long..19 weeks I think. Then hit PCT. Immediately after my PCT ended (which consisted of just clomid) I jumped into an even longer cycle. This time it was at least 25 weeks I honestly lost count. It was stupid. I've learned. I had all sorts of shit in this one too d-bol, anadrol, deca, test blends, test e test c started off at 900mg test/week way too much for a person of my experience. Anyway I ran hcg through most of it but the last 4 months I was out. So right now im 3 weeks in from last injection. Im taking clomid 100mg/day and nolva 50mg/day. I remember from before comin off gets emotional but im going thru shit right now where I must be rational. And a big concern is my boys shrunk down...way down after hcg. And I know its only a week into pct but theres no change yet last time they bounced back fast. What can you guys suggest I add to my PCT to help me recover faster? Thanks brothers. Learned my lesson for awhile.

[kubes]

Has it been 4 months since you stopped the hcg

[bronson]

Yes roughly. Oh and I should add, the deca was done awhile ago too. 5 months...ish

[kubes]

Yes roughly. Oh and I should add, the deca was done awhile ago too. 5 months...ish

Can you get more hcg? I would either suggest running the power pct protocol or stay on the test another 4-6 weeks with hcg alongside with an AI then run the pct after

[bronson]

I havent looked at other sponsors but I suppose I could. I been off the test like 3 weeks now tho wouldnt starting back up just be wasting time?

[kubes]

I havent looked at other sponsors but I suppose I could. I been off the test like 3 weeks now tho wouldnt starting back up just be wasting time?

It depends bro.... You been on test along time with no hcg for a long time. You could try and just run a pct and see if you recover but I would stay on a low dose of test with the hcg and AI alongside for 4-6 weeks and run your pct after. Your body starts producing lh quickly but recovering from the testicular disfunction that happens during a steroid cycle takes longer. The longer you are on gear the longer your testies have been shut down the longer recovery may take. Hcg will stimulate some testicular function before the pct which is a good thing

[soopafli]

It depends bro.... You been on test along time with no hcg for a long time. You could try and just run a pct and see if you recover but I would stay on a low dose of test with the hcg and AI alongside for 4-6 weeks and run your pct after. Your body starts producing lh quickly but recovering from the testicular disfunction that happens during a steroid cycle takes longer. The longer you are on gear the longer your testies have been shut down the longer recovery may take. Hcg will stimulate some testicular function before the pct which is a good thing
Ya your just atrophied bro 16 weeks with no hcg will shrink em but dontt worry theyll come back I would do as kubes suggested but maybe run test hcg and proviron and clomid for a few weeks then taper off and continue with proviron and clomid

[bronson]

Ok thanks guys. Gonna look for some hcg. My libido is still here so I mean thats a good sign. I am gonna get bloods while im waiting for more gear an hcg. Im dating this chick and want to move forward physically if you know what I mean but im embarrassed right now lol I dont want her to think this is how I am haha

[kubes]

Just to be clear I would not run Clomid alongside the test. Run the Clomid during pct with your nolvadex. Clomid will not be able to do its job until androgen levels drop below baseline numbers

[soopafli]

I run clomid with test mainly because it helps with sperm production and generally for me I dont produce alot on cycle .. it just makes it feel better for me after ive been on cycle awhile. This is just bro science but test inhibits sperm production clomid effectively mitigates that problem .. hence I run clomid during long cycles for sperm production .. if your worried about your sex life id def take it with proviron and hcg .I am not sayin that it will return natural production while on cycle . But if youve noticed that much atrophy then im sure your not producing alot of sperm if you want to take clomid

[enrod]

Ok thanks guys. Gonna look for some hcg. My libido is still here so I mean thats a good sign. I am gonna get bloods while im waiting for more gear an hcg. Im dating this chick and want to move forward physically if you know what I mean but im embarrassed right now lol I dont want her to think this is how I am haha

Cialis. It's the shit.

[bronson]

Thinking im just gonna keep running thru pct. Theres no quick fix. Shellin out more money to even attempt this idea doesnt make sense.

[bronson]

Just an update my boys are coming back. Didn't start happening noticeably fast until about a week ago. I'd say I'm at about 75 - 80% size of where I was before cycle. I still have about a week left of pct. Still kinda emotional an shit. But It feels like im starting to level out. I dropped a drastic amount of muscle quick. So in that aspect this cycle and pct has failed. Im just hoping for complete recovery at this point. Definitely going to have a different approach next cycle if there is one. I got some hcg but its pretty much too late now especially since I'm seeing teste growth. Right? Unless I jump back on low dose with it as suggested. Anyway so testicle growth is definitely a good sign right? Should I just keep doing what im doing? Thx

[kubes]

I wouldnt run hcg as it will suppress lh function and at this point it sounds like you are recovering so hcg would be counter productive. Next cycle if you do cycle run hcg alongside

[theestone]

Finish out the pct. Your head long into recovery. Just ride it out.